~~To Pacquiao fans: The myth that taking blood weakens needs to end.~~

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Over 1200 punches.

Wasnt tired.

Still fast and strong.

AFTER giving 2 TUBES of blood 19 days away from the Clottey fight.

Myth R.I.P

[Carpe Diem]

What are you guys talking about? Manny Pacquiao agreed to all of Floyd's demands, but Floyd rejected Manny's only demand. Roger Mayweather said that if they gave him a 5 days window, they wouldn't had any problems with it. Manny offered them 14 days, that's 9 more days than Roger Mayweather asked for, and Floyd and his team still declined and they wanted 24 days to recovered. How can anyone blame Manny Pacquiao? He did everything he could to made the fight happened, and Floyd and his camp still refuses to bend over.

[Pocket Dogs!]

To be honest, Manny should take the blood tests even up to the day before the fight. I believe he's a bit naive in thinking that the blood testing made him weak before the Morales fight. Doesn't he realize that making weight for that fight is what made him weak? Yes, they took a number of vials of blood from him. But remember, the doctor told him to drink a lot of water after the blood test which he could not do because he was still trying to make weight.

The blood tests that the NSAC requires is only a teaspoon of blood for every random blood test along with random urine testing. Today, he could eat as much as he wants and drink as much as he wants so he could do that right after taking a blood test. Manny has to realize that he in America despite the term, "innocent until proven guilty," there will always be a sense of su****ion if he doesn't take certain tests. It doesn't matter if Floyd demanded them. He should let go of his ego and prove to Mayweather that he isn't cheating, whoop his ass, and show him who the true P4P champion is.

[Carpe Diem]

Floyd Mayweather and his camp are all liars

Excuses

December 11:

Roger Mayweather: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Floyd Sr: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Floyd takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Floyd would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Mayweather has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Mayweather, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Roger Mayweather: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Oscar De La Hoya: Floyd says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Roger Mayweather: For the record, Floyd (Remember, he said Floyd) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Floyd is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Oscar De La Hoya: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Floyd Mayweather plans to sue Bob Arum, the CEO of Top Rank and Manny Pacquiao in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Floyd's representatives asked what penalties Floyd would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Floyd Mayweather: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Floyd Mayweather: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Floyd Sr: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Roger Mayweather.

Roger: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Roger, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Roger: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Roger, I'm not here to make you mad.

Roger: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Roger, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Roger: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.

The Manny Pacquiao fight is the fight the world wants to see,” Roger Mayweather said. “It’s going to be the biggest pay-per-view fight of all time. But I think we will fight one fight before that.”

Roger said that Floyd Mayweather schedule will be constructed around his political ambitions and the elections in the Philippines on May 10. “But there is a March date for him to fight,” Roger said. “People think I am crazy but I want him to win his eighth title against Yuri Foreman at 154lb. That’s my idea — then fight Manny Pacquiao in September. And then retire.”

The way Roger sees it, there will be no further blemishes on Floyd’s record by the time he greets retirement, although he does concede that Pacquiao will be “the hardest fight of his life”.

Floyd's a very difficult fight for Manny,” he said. “It will be physically the hardest, but it will be the hardest fight of his life style-wise. Pacquiao is talented and he’s good at offense. I have a very good game plan for him, but I’m sure a lot of other guys thought that along the way.

“We’ll have a ten-week training camp. We have to work on a lot of new moves, we have to improve in certain areas to win that fight.” And would he expect his man to win? “Oh yes. Without a doubt.”



Floyd Mayweather clearly ducked Manny Pacquiao.

[fabie]

If the NSAC asked for this blood test, there wouldn't be any problem. The issue here is a contender (coming out of retirement) in Mayweather is imposing on the Champion to take a blood test...

And so there's a combo of issues here....ego obviously in both sides.

But Mayweather demanding it and Pacquiao shooting it down. I don't think this is an uber hard to realize that this isn't about the blood test anymore, it is about ego on who should demand who...

Again, if Mayweather would have toned down his language perhaps and requested the NSAC to test Pacquiao, then perhaps there would be a fight...On the other side, obviously Pacquiao can take the test also. But with his previous bad experience with the test, joke or ridicule all we want about his "irrational fears" about the blood test but we still have to remember the psychological part of this.

A fight is also psychological. For us "non-boxers" here should understand this....inorder to beat someone in the ring, the big part is also the psychological part and thus I wouldn't even touch the issue whether Pacquiao is "scared of blood tests or not"...

So freakin' what if he is scared....everyone has some kind of "irrational fears" but has no relevance to boxing or our profession or whatever it is that we do.

One can be "brave" in many things but when things matter, in this case boxing, that is all that matters.

I really think that there should be a mediation as part of the negotiation from the start instead of "salvaging" what's left. Start proactive for both sides and this is the perfect opportunity for NSAC to step in.

Enough of these ****** mud-slinging at both sides. Both sides have issues and thus the fight didn't happen in the first place. This time I hope that they can fight.

And who knows, there would be rematches and to be more ambitious, a trilogy! But first things first.

Both sides have to agree....not just one imposing on the other.

[cortdawg25]

if the nsac asked for this blood test, there wouldn't be any problem. The issue here is a contender (coming out of retirement) in mayweather is imposing on the champion to take a blood test...

And so there's a combo of issues here....ego obviously in both sides.

But mayweather demanding it and pacquiao shooting it down. I don't think this is an uber hard to realize that this isn't about the blood test anymore, it is about ego on who should demand who...

Again, if mayweather would have toned down his language perhaps and requested the nsac to test pacquiao, then perhaps there would be a fight...on the other side, obviously pacquiao can take the test also. But with his previous bad experience with the test, joke or ridicule all we want about his "irrational fears" about the blood test but we still have to remember the psychological part of this.

A fight is also psychological. For us "non-boxers" here should understand this....inorder to beat someone in the ring, the big part is also the psychological part and thus i wouldn't even touch the issue whether pacquiao is "scared of blood tests or not"...

So freakin' what if he is scared....everyone has some kind of "irrational fears" but has no relevance to boxing or our profession or whatever it is that we do.

One can be "brave" in many things but when things matter, in this case boxing, that is all that matters.

I really think that there should be a mediation as part of the negotiation from the start instead of "salvaging" what's left. Start proactive for both sides and this is the perfect opportunity for nsac to step in.

Enough of these ****** mud-slinging at both sides. Both sides have issues and thus the fight didn't happen in the first place. This time i hope that they can fight.

And who knows, there would be rematches and to be more ambitious, a trilogy! But first things first.

Both sides have to agree....not just one imposing on the other.

fabie still giving excuses! If u clean take the test!

[Haterfree]

Whatever happens. I think Pac's team will come up with some excuse not to fight Floyd.

[DIB42]

* He had 2 tubes of blood withdrawn 19 days before the Clottey fight.

* Then proceeded to be a energized, punching machine with loads and stamina and threw over 1200 punches.
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That was a weakened Manny! No Blood test and he would have thrown 16,000 punches.

He should have manditory blood tests daily, just to keep him at the strength level of us mortals. If we were to let him go too many days without a Blood test there'd be no human or army that could counter his power, Manny would rule the world, if he chose.

Just something to think about.

[fabie]

fabie still giving excuses! If u clean take the test!

If you kindly re-read my postings, it is calling for both fighters to make this happen. It isn't one way and if that would have to be the order of the day, then it should be PACQUIAO CALLING ALL THE SHOTS, but it is Mayweather calling this one (blood test).

I bet you didn't even read my posting.

[flexxx145]

If you kindly re-read my postings, it is calling for both fighters to make this happen. It isn't one way and if that would have to be the order of the day, then it should be PACQUIAO CALLING ALL THE SHOTS, but it is Mayweather calling this one (blood test).

I bet you didn't even read my posting.

I don't understand why you think Pac deserves the right to call all the shots? But after May 1st if PBF beats Mosley and sells more than 1.4 mil. Then PBF will have defeated a better WW opponent and grossed more PPV buys than pacs last fight. Then Pac won't have a leg to stand on. Floyd will have proved himself a bigger draw, and will have the basis to stand pat on his demands. But I can see him backing off it if Manny agrees to a 70/30 split.

Personally I assign equal blame. PBF was pretty disrespectful but Manny did make some lame excuses and didn't try to make the fight happen. PBF agreed to all his request, and couldn't get his only 1 to me that speaks volumes. But I bet this is all falling on deaf ears.