What is it you all see in Valero?? I am not impressed.

[baCCaT]

I only like him because he embarrassed every sparring partner Pac ever had.

And the rumors say, he dusted Pac in sparring, that's why Arum sought softer punchers for him. Mexican guys that were better money fights, and less risk.




I don't know know what you don't like about him, but he brings it.


When he can, how he can.


And the myths about him are great.

I understand if you hate the truth.

A lot of people do

hhmmmmm..

reeks of hatred.

[Guest]

Just tell me how they both fared with Antillon.

And don't be mistaken, I love Pac.


I like any southpaw slugger and boxer who brings it.

Pac and Valero both.

I just feel people dismiss Valero too much.

Pac always had chances to prove himself, Valero never did.

[baCCaT]

Just tell me how they both fared with Antillon.

And don't be mistaken, I love Pac.


I like any southpaw slugger and boxer who brings it.

Pac and Valero both.

I just feel people dismiss Valero too much.

Pac always had chances to prove himself, Valero never did.

thats true..

thats why its better to hold criticism about valero atm.

praising him will come in a later date, perhaps if he proves more..

theres this bradley talk..

now thats a step up name.. that i'll be anticipating.

[Guest]

thats true..

thats why its better to hold criticism about valero atm.

praising him will come in a later date, perhaps if he proves more..

theres this bradley talk..

now thats a step up name.. that i'll be anticipating.

hA, yeah.

I feel ya.

I think Pac caught the same stuff Valero did when he was coming up.

I like them both a lot, I think for Pac the stars aligned, but for Valero he was getting dui's and head injuries.


I hope it all works out. DeMarco is a start, but not fighting in Vegas, Cali, or NY is gonna kill Valero.

[checkmate18x]

Gamboa's better.

[ATG Fighter]

I agree. He seems to have become a world beater over here. Put him in with Bradley or top 10 guy and I'll believe the hype.

[jthoang]

You are not impressed because you're just an average Joe who's mind is manipulated by all the hype you hear on TV or anywhere else, you need to expand your mind, open up to new ideas, go out and explore, Valero offers you freedom, embrace it! Valero is the beginnig of a new era full of possibilities.

LOL, how does he offer you freedom. Dumbest post I've read today.

[KING 2K10]

You are not impressed because you're just an average Joe who's mind is manipulated by all the hype you hear on TV or anywhere else, you need to expand your mind, open up to new ideas, go out and explore, Valero offers you freedom, embrace it! Valero is the beginnig of a new era full of possibilities.

How in the hell would you know my mind? You're a troll who's been here for a month..I've been here for nearly a year and a half and hardly ever hated on any fighter.. I try to see the good in all fighters and when I don't see anything special, I call it as I see it.. So just because I don't like your god, I am manipulated by tv?? Bull****...Your the one who is manipulated by everyone here..Jumping on the bandwagon because it's "the thing to do."

LOL, how does he offer you freedom. Dumbest post I've read today.

I know, right?