ROACH: "It takes Manny three or four days to recover from a blood test"

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  • mike19727
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    #11
    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
    Think about it. If he gets tested 17days or whatever number you can pick out and it takes 3-4 days to recover from it....then that's 3-4days of training that's just been deducted from training camp.
    Originally posted by alexpz
    Who is Floyd to demand? Is Floyd greater than the Nevada State Boxing Commission?

    Are you suggesting that Floyd should create his own commission and create his own rules

    Manny follows what the commission ask. If the Commission ask every boxer to take the blood test no doubt Manny will abide.

    But ask for Floyd to demand that test then perhaps he should create his own commission.
    Manny's fans should be all for this test. Because like it or not, there are some very respectable people in the boxing and sporting world, who are begining to wonder why Manny doesn't want a blood test to confirm he's not on roids.

    There are plenty of athletes who are roids and almost all who are caught never, ever admit to being on them. This test would shut up all the people once and for all. Forget Mayweather demanding it, it should be a part of all sports anyway. Why not start with the biggest fight in recent memory.

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    • jaestix1
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      #12
      team pac as been pwning themselves throughout this whole thing.....if it take three days than 14 days should be more than enough time. team mayweather as always agree to a cut-off date(as long as its reasonable) BEFORE THE MEDIATION MEETINGS EVEN BEGAN.....

      here's an article from the la times two weeks ago:

      It appears the Floyd Mayweather Camp is open to a compromise on their demand of random blood testing. “As long as there’s a blood test, as long as there’s a urine test and as long as it’s random, a cutoff date is agreeable to us,” Mayweather’s representative Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions told the LA Times Saturday. Meanwhile, Pacquiao wrote on his blog “I am still willing to Fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the press [conference]. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that.”

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      • lee majors
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        #13
        Originally posted by mike19727
        Come on guys. Where talking about a guy (who after a brutal day of training that would probably kill us) plays basketball every night. Are you telling me a little blood test is really going to hurt him? And 14 day cutoff would be put in the contract so no worries bout two days before the fight.
        Same guy that schedules concerts on the day of a fight months in advance and does rehearsals during training. The same guy that shoots crappy C movies during the time most fighter begin training camp. Less than a teaspoon of blood does that, really?

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        • alexpz
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          #14
          Originally posted by mike19727
          Manny's fans should be all for this test. Because like it or not, there are some very respectable people in the boxing and sporting world, who are begining to wonder why Manny doesn't want a blood test to confirm he's not on roids.

          There are plenty of athletes who are and almost all who are caught never, ever admit to being on them. This test would shut up all the people once and for all. Forget Mayweather demanding it, it should be a part of all sports anyway. Why not start with the biggest fight in recent memory.
          Are you nuts. Manny would be willing to take the test. But not with Floyd test demands. Haven't you hear the news that Manny would be willing to take the test?

          Why won't you guys ask the commission to add the random blood testing on all boxer, all fights.

          Manny wouldn't bow down to Floyd's demand. Who's Floyd right now to demand?

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          • shadeyfizzle
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            #15
            Originally posted by mike19727
            Manny's fans should be all for this test. Because like it or not, there are some very respectable people in the boxing and sporting world, who are begining to wonder why Manny doesn't want a blood test to confirm he's not on roids.

            There are plenty of athletes who are roids and almost all who are caught never, ever admit to being on them. This test would shut up all the people once and for all. Forget Mayweather demanding it, it should be a part of all sports anyway. Why not start with the biggest fight in recent memory.
            I am all for it. 14 days is reasonable. as is 24days. But it doesnt change the mental impact it would have on Pacquiao.

            Just like Mayweather blamed his ****ty performance against delahoya on the gloves not being the brand that he likes. It's a mental thing.

            Pacquiao believes it will affect him. Not being able to run that extra mile, not being able to go that extra round in sparring, not being able to go at as fast a pace in training.....all these little things because of whatever mental impact he believes it will have on him add up and show during the actual fight.

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            • carts
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              #16
              they asked for olympic style testing team pac agreed the 30 day cut off is the test should be done floyd team asked for 14 days cut off team pac negotiated with 24 days.. this is before the mediation folks... so after mediation the negotiation died cuz of the cut off date.. dont be blinded by the fact that u *****s really want the way mayweather want it to be, to test pac before the fight and weaken him cuz thats the only way floyd has a chance of beating him this is what floyd wants he just doesnt wanna loose..

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              • Silky-Flow
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                #17
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                so if manny gets tested 17days out from the fight and it takes 3-4days for Pac to recover like Roach says....how many days of crucial training camp has just been wasted??? It doesnt change right??? Cmon man....it's simple math.
                Well Manny gave a whole tube of blood during his training for the Hatton fight so why wasn't there a problem then? we're talking about a damn TEA SPOON of blood, so if it does take him three days to recover he'll have a whole eleven days to do his hard training before the fight, that's more than enough imo.

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                • mike19727
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by lee majors
                  Same guy that schedules concerts on the day of a fight months in advance and does rehearsals during training. The same guy that shoots crappy C movies during the time most fighter begin training camp. Less than a teaspoon of blood does that, really?
                  Originally posted by alexpz
                  Are you nuts. Manny would be willing to take the test. But not with Floyd test demands. Haven't you hear the news that Manny would be willing to take the test?

                  Why won't you guys ask the commission to add the random blood testing on all boxer, all fights.

                  Manny wouldn't bow down to Floyd's demand. Who's Floyd right now to demand?
                  Who cares who's demanding it. What if Manny was the one who wanted it? Than you would be all for it, wouldn't you?

                  Manny only wants to take a few tests at the time of his choosing. Sorry to have to keep breaking this to you over and over again, but that not random and kills the reason to even take it in the first place. And you have the nerve to ask me how old I am? LOL.

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                  • shadeyfizzle
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                    Well Manny gave a whole tube of blood during his training for the Hatton fight so why wasn't there a problem then? we're talking about a damn TEA SPOON of blood, so if it does take him three days to recover he'll have a whole eleven days to do his hard training before the fight, that's more than enough imo.
                    each test requires 2 samples...so 2 teaspoons. and random testing would mean the agency would be able to take as many tests within the given period as they see fit. It could mean 1 test a day every day, 3-4 tests a day everyday, or none at all. They could very well add up.

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                    • alexpz
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mike19727
                      Who cares who's demanding it. What if Manny was the one who wanted it? Than you would be all for it, wouldn't you?

                      Manny only wants to take a few tests at the time of his choosing. Sorry to have to keep breaking this to you over and over again, but that not random and kills the reason to even take it in the first place. And you have the nerve to ask me how old I am? LOL.

                      mike19727.. Who in boxing history has demand for random blood testing for a professional boxing fight?

                      Can you refresh my memory?

                      His demands is above what the commission ask. Are you proposing that random blood testing should be added in the commissions rules?

                      Why won't you guys suggest it to the commission..

                      Manny won't abide with Floyd's demand. But Manny with the commission demands. So go to the commission and convinced them to add the random blood testing to all fighters and to all fights. how about that?

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