Someone please give me a rational explanation as to why Pacquiao does not want TESTIN
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This helps shed some more light on the issue.
You are foolish , what Tangent is your school teacher rave on ?
You have given no rational explanation based on logic , you give explanation based on being a fan.
So just for you some rational evidence from a world expert showing why this type of testing is needed in this fight and why Floyd has every right to ask for this type of testing .
How should the doping authorities pursue the drug-cheats? The 'alturistic' Conte laid it out for them:
How could the doping police do a better job? Conte insists that he has answered these questions. He has had three meetings with the US AntiDoping Agency and in February 2005 he spent three hours with an official from Wada. “And I didn’t do it in exchange for leniency,” he said. “I did it for the right reasons: to create a fully cooperative acknowledgement of the massive drug problem in elite sport.”
For the doping authorities to be more successful, he recommends better target-testing. “When you see that the fastest two men in the world are both from a track club in Los Angeles, for instance, or the Bay Area, or North Carolina or Jamaica – this should be worth looking at. What you need to do is take the dollars you have and the number of tests you have and focus your resources on the top ten in each event. Why test the top 100 – the people who are not winning races and not winning dollars? Why test everybody two times when you could test the top ten ten times?”
He also recommends better timing of the testing. “The testing used to drop off hugely in the fourth quarter of the year. But my point is, this is the off-season quarter when the athletes are using substances for their intensive weight training. Why did the testers decide to take a nap then?”
This is why, he said, Balco’s level of sophistication is not required to be a cheat. “I know of people who have very little information and are still able to get round the procedures. The authorities say they are improving – and they are. But is it still relatively easy for athletes to use drugs and beat the system? The answer is yes.”
WADA has become more sophisticated in catching anabolic steroid users, however the athletes manipulate the chemical properties of the drugs to beat the system. Fast acting testosterone is out of their bodies before the anti-doping police catch up:
“The use of designer drugs is significantly lower now because they [Wada] have changed the rules and now, if they find anything related in structure [to another illegal substance], even if they don’t know what it is, they can call it a positive test,” Conte said. “So now people are doing it with fast-acting testosterone. They can use, for example, testosterone undecanoate; a lot of athletes are doing it in Italy, it’s freely available in Mexico.
“You take these pills – typically 40 milligrams each – three or four times a day and you need to duck and dive for only a short time because they clear the system in four days. So you can do very intense weight training for just a couple of weeks and significantly enhance your explosive strength.”Comment
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ever heard of the statement "If i give one to you i will have to give to everyone else"
Why does the original drug testing regulation gotta be changed because a crackhead thinks his on to something. If the new regulation kicks through than that means a new procedure of drug testings will be held liable to all proffesional and elite boxers. Its plain dumb. Stick with the original NSAC testings. why bring in the Olympic testings? Just keep it original as it has been in the past decades.Comment
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Manny does not need to prove anything to anybody but the NSAC. A man is considered innocent until proven otherwise. The accusers should prove this to the commission. As far as NSAC is concern, Manny was never tested positive on any illegal substance. (that includes PEDs, marijuana, *******, etc)I'm not hating on Pacquiao and I'm not a "*****". I'm just a huge Boxing fan. And would like to see the sport prosper. That means enteratining fights and clean fighters (who do not rely on plaster of paris, PED's etc.) because this is a dangerous sport and any "extra help" can be very dangerous. Having said that, Floyd is completely right in asking for the random testing. It's ok for Pacquiao to ask for the 147 lb weight limit, 50-50 split, 8 oz. gloves for this fight and catchweights, ring size, bigger split etc. in others but it's not ok for Floyd to ask for RANDOM tests?! Come on! Give me a break! If anything, Floyd has potentially revolutionized the sport because this could potentially bring in random blood testing and random urine testing which would make the sport a lot more cleaner.
Pacquiao does not want to do the tests because he has something to hide... PERIOD. Prove me wrong Pacquiao by doing the random blood tests.
Besides Manny is agreeable to blood testing RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT IN HIS DRESSING ROOM. If he is on something illegal, it should show up in the results. Get a medical expert on this issue and post this question: How long does this substance stay on our system so that it can be effectively detected by a blood test? What are the benefits in using them, does it give additional strength in the body or additional punching power of the user? Because I think I've seen a lot of steroids user in the body of weightlifters, they have well-defined body structure full of muscles. Compare the body structure of PBF and of PacMan, who do you think is more likely to use steroids?Last edited by ldZurban; 01-03-2010, 12:51 AM.Comment
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Just because nobody ever do it before! Not even Queen Floydy!
They (Mayweathers-father,son and uncle and GBP/Oscar/Schafer) had been accusing Pac using steroid even before the Cotto fight. They had been planning it long time ago to destroy Pac reputation. So a lot of people surprised on Floyd accepting the terms and conditions without blinking an eyelid which rise su****ious as it showed from the past how hard he is to deal with any negotiation not on his favor. By asking this first time in history of pro boxing. The Olympic style testing which Pac have to undergo 3-5 random blood testing even the day of the fight is just unacceptable and they know Pac will not agree on to it. Its a ploy or well planned strategy to make Pac look bad while at the same time Floyd ***** out on this fight looking like some kind of righteousness person.
Pac really wants to fight Floyd has been quoted saying "Floyd you have to man up and face me so we can prove to the people who is the best of us". Pac team like Arum counter offered them with blood random testing any day but not 30 days before the fight, plus any day urine testing and blood test him after the fight sound fair enough. Pac said himself on video footage he agreed to the random blood testing except 2 days before the fight but they still turned it down saying "if you are nothing to hide just accept the blood testing". This sound su****ious a masked agenda, the same as saying I want you to be tested hours before our fight so I may gain some mental and physical advantage over you. You can't say its fair for both of them as they both will be tested. The only problem is if they gonna be tested both in the same day? or let say Floyd randomly will be tested 1 week before the fight and Pac hours before the fight? Honestly we don't know because its random.
Bottom line is Floyd knows fighting Pac might blemish his perfect record and really afraid to lost his "0".Comment
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You know, there's no way you could make them point any finger to their idol Floyd. I've seen anti-Pac blogs and the message is basically the same "does he have anything to hide" line. Or the classic "take the damn test and be done with it" crap.You are just a hater man. At the start when floyd insisted for an olympic style drug testing, manny's camp were more than willing and accepted the request in an instant. But then under that clause, manny has to submit himself to 7-8 random blood testing the entire training schedule, manny always does 8 weeks of training, so are they expecting manny to do the blood test every week during training? Wtf is that, a blood test every other week i think is more than enough already. Then team pac offered in the initial negotiation the 3days blood test with unlimited number of urine test. The problem is, the mayweathers along with GBP leaked that detail to the press and claimed it to be the final offer already from team pac, wtf is that, their in the middle of negotiations man, they should have just offered a counter proposal as simple as that!! These are clearly malicious insinuations hoping to get public sympathy and discredit manny as an ATG fighter, why would they do that if floyd really wants to fight manny. And then just recently just to save the fight, manny already is willing to comply with the NSAC rules and subject himself to random blood/urine testing, just as long its only the NSAC who's doing it. The NSAC will be working in close collaboration with USADA on this one, team pac just wants one agency to be on top of the test. But lo and behold, after hearing about this new turn of events, roger mayweather also recently made a statement that the NSAC uses fake doctors as their staff. What the F****K is that now?!! Do the mayweathers really want this fight to happen, to me they are just a bunch of *******!!
Total disrespect for the Pac is there. They want him to just basically bow down to what the great master Floyd's demands.
Totally understand that they are on Floyd's side but it seems to me that they are more interested in recriminating the Pacman than seeing him being stopped by their idol in the ring. If they have any sense of maturity left, what I would like to hear from them is something like, "Come on Floyd, you can beat this guy"; "I don't think he would risk hiding illegal substances in an event of this magnitude"; "You can even beat him even with roids."
Unfortunately, there seems to be no one here (maybe a few) who has that kind of attitude. Most are interested in something else.Comment
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no amount of explanation can convince you..so if ur playing dumb or smart-ass then gth with ur master fraud. what evidence you can get from a blood right after the fight as against 24-hrs before? it's manny's body that manny is concerned with and not with floyd.1. This was way back when Manny was draining himself to make weight.
2. Manny now consumes 7000 calories a day. Weakening of his body should be the slightest concern now. He is very comfortable at 147.
3. NSAC randomly asked him to do the tests. But in this case, for the Floyd fight, Pacquiao knows that there will be RANDOM blood tests.Comment
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you just made a random rant. stop acting like a woman and use your brain rather than emotions to reply to me. what you replied to has nothing to do with what you said. calm down your estrogen levels.Comment
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