Someone please give me a rational explanation as to why Pacquiao does not want TESTIN

[ИATAS]

I trust you man, I do remember that. I and a few others didn't feel too comfortable with that. Pacquiao and his team could have demanded USADA not test 3-5 days before the fight.

well even if that were the case (pac's team demanding 3-5 days before the fight) that's better than nothing. Most all steroids/hgh/ped's take time and you take them while your training/working out, not during the cool down period in the days leading to the fight. That's not how they work.

Nothing pac could take 3-5 days before the fight, that couldn't be shown in the blood tests immediately after the fight, would help him win the fight or not.

But I guess that's besides the point. I think how things have gone, floyd should just take what he can get. If he can get random blood tests during training camp, fucking take it!

[FLYBOY]

I dont want to search for that **** to be honest I'm really sick of all this talk, but everything has been posted on this site. The timeline was that bob arum made a "final offer" to floyd saying 30 day cut off (manny as well), floyd shot it down. Then bob arum offered another proposal to floyd, stating that they are willing to have the state of Nevada to rule on the matter and if they rule that blood tests are required, even the day before the fight, they will do it. Floyd shot it down. That's accurate, I wouldn't lie to you comrade.

So again, my opinion is that if bob arum/pac are willing to have blood tests taken, randomly, then floyd should agree to a different agency doing the tests and just compromise on that one single thing, which would be a cut off time for the random blood tests to stop (like 24 hours or 48 hours, or whatever). That way both sides in theory should be happy (floyd gets his way in that both are randomly tested and pac gets his way that he is not tested the day of or the day before the fight (which he believes will weaken him). It's a win-win situation.

Floyd and Schaefer recently said that they are okay with having a different agency do the testing as long as it is RANDOM.

[FLYBOY]

its funny this guy cant read english subs..ur really a *****s coz *****s are really ignorant bastards lol

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Pacquiao:"After they took my blood..i felt very dizzy after 30 minutes..My nape of my neck is painful."

FYI Pac was surprise with this blood test but he still pass the test lol.

He felt dizzy not just because of taking out the tablespoon of blood but because he was draining himself.

[FLYBOY]

Floyd and Schaefer recently said that they are okay with having a different agency do the testing as long as it is RANDOM.

READ THIS

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24344

[ИATAS]

READ THIS

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24344

Yes I'm aware, what we're not aware though is what the cut off time is. And I believe that's what the two camps are still working on (even though people say this fight is dead, I think obviously both camps want to make boatloads of money and are working on it).

[FLYBOY]

So, I still have not gotten a rational response. Why not do the test and shut everyone up Pacquiao!

[hugh grant]

So, I still have not gotten a rational response. Why not do the test and shut everyone up Pacquiao!

Stop being an idiot. If you havent got the response you are after keep quiet about it, and dont let us know.
YOuve got many responses. Take them or leave them.
Do you think he would shut people up by taking the tests? He would pass this one, but people would question because he didnt take olympic ones for all his other tests he must have been guilty of those.
So shut up. And PBF is guilty of taking PEDs for all his previous fights as well. He didnt volunteer himself for testing before he beat manfredy half to death did he or all the other fighters he beat? He didnt care about their life did he?
He only cares about his own life. So selfish is PBF!!!

[tanibanana]

So, I still have not gotten a rational response. Why not do the test and shut everyone up Pacquiao!

Because the question is far from being rational to start with..

[Kris Silver]

He said he's willing to give blood tests and even random blood tests.

His problem is he doesn't want to give blood the day of the fight or the day before the fight as he feels it may weaken him (see the video on youtube from 2005 when he discusses he felt weak against erik morales the first time they fought (he gave blood the day before)).

That's what it boils down to.

So, either if the Nevada state athletes commission does the random blood tests up to a point (like 48 hours before the fight, etc.) then he's fine with it. He's also willing to give blood immediately after the fight as well.

The problem is that Floyd wants to use the Olympic doping agency, whom cannot gaurantee the random blood tests wont be on the day of the fight or the day before the fight.

So in order for this fight to happen, floyd needs to compromise. Simple as that. They can still have random blood tests leading up to the fight, just not within that 24 hour period.

Most people on this site don't realize those are the main issues. You got people on floyds side saying pacquiao is refusing to give blood (which isn't true) and you have people on Pac's side saying ignorant **** as well.

Couldn't green k this as have too recently Nata, but one of the more sensible informed posts I've seen on this matter.

People try to over simplify things sometimes. i.e., refuse a testing schedule must mean - guilty. No. Innocent man is pissed with being accused, is willing to do lots of tests, just not pander and put himself out un-necessarily.

[ldZurban]

PBF is demanding random blood testing, to be administered by USADA (later agreed to move off USADA) and that the test itself has no predetermined cut off time which could lead up to fight night itself.

PacMan agreeable to 3 blood tests: one after the press conference, one 30-days before the fight, one right after the fight in the dressing room.

Manny is not against any blood testing it's VERY CLEAR. If he is in steroids or anything, it will surely show up in the last blood test. In fact the first 2-tests will not matter much, that's why NSAC never required it. I think NSAC should amend its rules on medical testing and should include blood testing right after every fight, and if the winner tested positive the decision should be nullified and the offender should be fined. I think there is no need for a random blood testing during training and before the fight, random urine testing would be enough during that period of time.

Now, if PBF really is stepping on the plate and wants to fight Manny, he should accept even the last blood test because this is the only blood test that will have best effective results. Manny is already giving him favor of having his blood tested right after the fight in his dressing room, which is already beyond the required medical testing procedure by NSAC and not even required. Is this not enough agreeing to PBF's demand for a blood testing to find out if someone is using illegal substance?

Arum doesn't want Mayweathers team dictating the rules because it's the job of the commission. If you join a contest, you don't make the rules. If you want some rules to be amended, address it to the proper governing body of the contest.

Everbody wants clean, fair fight. This terms is already fair to both fighters and also to the fans. Let's make the fight happen!