Someone please give me a rational explanation as to why Pacquiao does not want TESTIN

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  • toyi
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    #31
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    Are you deliberately ignoring my posts or what?
    TS is floyding your post...

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #32
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Stop going off on a tangent would you! He is hurting his chances of getting 40milion by asking Pac to take tests he dont have to take, and shouldnt be asked to take. Pac shouldnt take anything PBF hasnt asked of anyone before.

      If PBF does ask pac to take something he hasnt asked anyone before, he is making excuses not to make 40 million to me.
      You can't put a price on a boxer's health, you can't.

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      • FLYBOY
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        #33
        Originally posted by HaymakerJAB
        1. This was way back when Manny was draining himself to make weight.
        2. Manny now consumes 7000 calories a day. Weakening of his body should be the slightest concern now. He is very comfortable at 147.
        3. NSAC randomly asked him to do the tests. But in this case, for the Floyd fight, Pacquiao knows that there will be RANDOM blood tests.

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        • ИATAS
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          #34
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
          If you don't mind, I'll need a link please. What I have is that most recently Pacquiao came out and said he wanted a 30 day cut off.
          I dont want to search for that **** to be honest I'm really sick of all this talk, but everything has been posted on this site. The timeline was that bob arum made a "final offer" to floyd saying 30 day cut off (manny as well), floyd shot it down. Then bob arum offered another proposal to floyd, stating that they are willing to have the state of Nevada to rule on the matter and if they rule that blood tests are required, even the day before the fight, they will do it. Floyd shot it down. That's accurate, I wouldn't lie to you comrade.

          So again, my opinion is that if bob arum/pac are willing to have blood tests taken, randomly, then floyd should agree to a different agency doing the tests and just compromise on that one single thing, which would be a cut off time for the random blood tests to stop (like 24 hours or 48 hours, or whatever). That way both sides in theory should be happy (floyd gets his way in that both are randomly tested and pac gets his way that he is not tested the day of or the day before the fight (which he believes will weaken him). It's a win-win situation.

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          • lyricalether
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            #35
            Originally posted by ИATAS206
            He said he's willing to give blood tests and even random blood tests.

            His problem is he doesn't want to give blood the day of the fight or the day before the fight as he feels it may weaken him (see the video on youtube from 2005 when he discusses he felt weak against erik morales the first time they fought (he gave blood the day before)).

            That's what it boils down to.

            So, either if the Nevada state athletes commission does the random blood tests up to a point (like 48 hours before the fight, etc.) then he's fine with it. He's also willing to give blood immediately after the fight as well.

            The problem is that Floyd wants to use the Olympic doping agency, whom cannot gaurantee the random blood tests wont be on the day of the fight or the day before the fight.

            So in order for this fight to happen, floyd needs to compromise. Simple as that. They can still have random blood tests leading up to the fight, just not within that 24 hour period.

            Most people on this site don't realize those are the main issues. You got people on floyds side saying pacquiao is refusing to give blood (which isn't true) and you have people on Pac's side saying ignorant **** as well.
            dude pac is not negotiating this...That is what PAC said...and I believe it is true..BUT ROACH SAID 30 DAYS...30 DAYS..30 DAYS...Not because Pac needs 30 Days, But because Roach thinks he must proove his bravado here and twist the demand...First it was 2 days before the fight, then 2 weeks before the fight, 30 days before the fight, then no USADA, then no blood tests period unless NSAC requires so..

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #36
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              I dont want to search for that **** to be honest I'm really sick of all this talk, but everything has been posted on this site. The timeline was that bob arum made a "final offer" to floyd saying 30 day cut off (manny as well), floyd shot it down. Then bob arum offered another proposal to floyd, stating that they are willing to have the state of Nevada to rule on the matter and if they rule that blood tests are required, even the day before the fight, they will do it. Floyd shot it down. That's accurate, I wouldn't lie to you comrade.

              So again, my opinion is that if bob arum/pac are willing to have blood tests taken, randomly, then floyd should agree to a different agency doing the tests and just compromise on that one single thing, which would be a cut off time for the random blood tests to stop (like 24 hours or 48 hours, or whatever). That way both sides in theory should be happy (floyd gets his way in that both are randomly tested and pac gets his way that he is not tested the day of or the day before the fight (which he believes will weaken him). It's a win-win situation.
              I trust you man, I do remember that. I and a few others didn't feel too comfortable with that. Pacquiao and his team could have demanded USADA not test 3-5 days before the fight.

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              • ИATAS
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                #37
                Originally posted by FLYBOY
                It's not rational because FLOYD MAYWEATHER WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE SAME. HE HAS AGREED TO THE RANDOM TESTING WHICH PACQUIAO HAS NOT AGREED TO! If Floyd can do it, why can't Pacquiao? Pacquiao's training camps are much more chaotic (Krista Ranillo, the beef between his team members, hurricanes, etc.) but he can't add a little blood testing here and there?! Besides, blood levels return back to normal in ONE HOUR after taking out a freaking TABLESPOON of blood. It's not like they will completely remove his blood! it's a freaking TABLESPOON!
                This is why I'm starting to believe you're an idiot.

                You asked for a rational reason of why PACQUIAO wouldn't agree to exactly what floyd wanted. I broke it down rationally. It has nothing to do with if floyd is tested the same way or not. I'm telling you from Pac's perspective, that's wtf you wanted.

                You've just shown you're true colors in this thread. You are not willing to see the other side, you have your mind already made up. That's fine, keep your opinions, but don't make a thread and act like you're honestly trying to understand something when that's clearly not the case.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  You can't put a price on a boxer's health, you can't.
                  Please tell me why parents dont request testing of teachers who teach their children, or any child workers to be wired up to a moniter while been shown graphic images of little children to see if there are any stirrings in the south areas of you?
                  Every child worker is automatically under su****ion afterall unfortunately. The fact they havent got previous convictions is normally sufficient to get jobs in nursery, or train as one i would imagine.

                  Childrens innocence is as important as PBFs life, sorry to say.

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                  • [ DUBBZZ ]
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    I dont want to search for that **** to be honest I'm really sick of all this talk, but everything has been posted on this site. The timeline was that bob arum made a "final offer" to floyd saying 30 day cut off (manny as well), floyd shot it down. Then bob arum offered another proposal to floyd, stating that they are willing to have the state of Nevada to rule on the matter and if they rule that blood tests are required, even the day before the fight, they will do it. Floyd shot it down. That's accurate, I wouldn't lie to you comrade.

                    So again, my opinion is that if bob arum/pac are willing to have blood tests taken, randomly, then floyd should agree to a different agency doing the tests and just compromise on that one single thing, which would be a cut off time for the random blood tests to stop (like 24 hours or 48 hours, or whatever). That way both sides in theory should be happy (floyd gets his way in that both are randomly tested and pac gets his way that he is not tested the day of or the day before the fight (which he believes will weaken him). It's a win-win situation.
                    Nat, this is the only post that seems to make sense on here. You do realize when you say that another agency is doing the test, Floydies are gonna automatically say that this proves Mannys on steroids right?

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                    • HighFlyer
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by FLYBOY
                      1. This was way back when Manny was draining himself to make weight.
                      2. Manny now consumes 7000 calories a day. Weakening of his body should be the slightest concern now. He is very comfortable at 147.
                      3. NSAC randomly asked him to do the tests. But in this case, for the Floyd fight, Pacquiao knows that there will be RANDOM blood tests.
                      its funny this guy cant read english subs..ur really a *****s coz *****s are really ignorant bastards lol

                      2:57
                      Pacquiao:"After they took my blood..i felt very dizzy after 30 minutes..My nape of my neck is painful."

                      FYI Pac was surprise with this blood test but he still pass the test lol.

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