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Originally posted by norway
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You don't know Floyd and Pac and you're talking as it seems you know them both. Pac is Floyd's weakness because he hates pressure fighter! See Floyd-Castillo 1? Castillo clearly won against Floyd but got robbed by UD for Floyd. The point is, Floyd doesn't know how to fight when he got tagged on the ropes by a pressure fighter. Forget Hatton because he have no head movements. And Baldomir won the last round after he rallied his best as pressure fighter and Floyd doesn't know how to counter them but its too late though because he made that effort only in the last round. But Pac is different fighter from castillo and Baldomir, unlike Castillo, Pac is fast and he have stamina until to the last round. IMHO Floyd will lose this time because he is fighting a different beast who have all that tools to defeat him!
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Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View PostYou don't know Floyd and Pac and you're talking as it seems you know them both. Pac is Floyd's weakness because he hates pressure fighter! See Floyd-Castillo 1? Castillo clearly won against Floyd but got robbed by UD for Floyd. The point is, Floyd doesn't know how to fight when he got tagged on the ropes by a pressure fighter. Forget Hatton because he have no head movements. And Baldomir won the last round after he rallied his best as pressure fighter and Floyd doesn't know how to counter them but its too late though because he made that effort only in the last round. But Pac is different fighter from castillo and Baldomir, unlike Castillo, Pac is fast and he have stamina until to the last round. IMHO Floyd will lose this time because he is fighting a different beast who have all that tools to defeat him!
didnt castillo fight mayweather again?? didnt he lose with all the pressure on floyd...im not saying manny cant beat him but to bring up tough fights floyd had and say these are the reasons he will lose just shows how bias you are, WE CAN EASILY BRING UP HOW MANNY STRUGGLED WITH TECHINCAL FIGHTER JMM BOTH FIGHTS THAT MANY PEOPLE SAW JMM WINNING BUT GOT ROBBED TWICE! Forget de la hoya, hatton, cotto cause they had no head movement...May is a different kind of fighter than JMM, unlike JMM May is fast and has Better Defense...And i respect your HO.....But this fight can go either way IMHOComment
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Originally posted by Lady Fan View PostI'll be honest with you, I know there is a nice guy somewhere in Pretty Boy. He just needs to stop with the "Flashy, Arrogant" stuff when he's in public. He wants to "Show Off" all his riches and such but NOBODY cares for all of that. It's more of a turnoff than anything else. He lost me as a fan because of all that BS along with his arrogant behavior which is disturbing and obnoxious. I'm quite sure he has lost the respect from fans everywhere which is sad. He needs to brighten up and appreciate what boxing fans had given him. He wouldn't be where he is today without us. JAT
why are you so enamored with Mayweather and his money? What he chooses to do with his money out of the ring is his business. He has dedicated his entire life to the sport of boxing since he was born. He has been in the gym since the day he came out of his mother. He is one of the most disciplined & dedicated boxers in the sport, and if on his off time he wants to flash money around who the hell cares?
Why do you keep mentioning his personality? Since 2005 Mayweather has been the top PPV fighter in the sport......I guess his ****y personality isn't such a turn off after all.....Comment
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As he was easy going and beating up the best fighters of the world... he got nothing LadyFan... he was considered P4P by many but he couldn't sell ****... if guys sometimes make jokes about him fighting in front of empty crowds it was true... he was the best for a long time in the sport and get pretty less out of it...Originally posted by Lady Fan View PostI'll be honest with you, I know there is a nice guy somewhere in Pretty Boy. He just needs to stop with the "Flashy, Arrogant" stuff when he's in public. He wants to "Show Off" all his riches and such but NOBODY cares for all of that. It's more of a turnoff than anything else. He lost me as a fan because of all that BS along with his arrogant behavior which is disturbing and obnoxious. I'm quite sure he has lost the respect from fans everywhere which is sad. He needs to brighten up and appreciate what boxing fans had given him. He wouldn't be where he is today without us. JAT
After he went away from Arum and started his new ''persona'' he made a lot of money... nobody wanted to see him smile or love like DLH... he could never be that... so he became that kind of thug-brat kind of persona... and it worked... if you want money you got to give ppl what they want... and in a sense Mayweather is the perfect heel... he isn't a guy who goes out and destroys opponents with power or KO's them.
It's like pro wrestling... the heel will always tell you I'm going to whoop him etc. and all the talking makes you wanna see him loose... that's what you want and pay for... and then he comes and wins in a ''cowardly'' way which makes you hate him even more... ppl love to hate him... so he gives them what they want... it's as easy as that.Comment
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I am just pointing how Castillo won against Floyd in their first matched though Castillo got robbed. What I mean, Floyd could lose to a true pressure fighter and therefore he is a tailored made to the kind of Pac. Their second fight Castillo loss but doesn't mean Floyd did something to neutralize Castillo's pressure, but I was upset to see that Castillo did not fires much the way he was in their first matched. AND MANNY WON AGAINST JMM IN THEIR FIRST MATCHED, BUT ONE OF THE JUDGES MADE MISTAKE BY NOT DEDUCTING A POINT FROM JMM AFTER MANNY KOed HIM. THIS JUDGE ADMITTED HE MADE ERROR IN HIS SCORING AFTER THIS FIGHT, AND MANNY SHOULD BE THE CLEAR WINNER OF THAT FIGHT BY MAJORITY SHOULD THIS JUDGE DID NOT ERRED IN HIS SCORING! Their rematched should go either way but still I believed Pac won this, just the way I look at it! But Pac was not just struggling against JMM at that time but he was struggling on his weight in the SFW! After his JMM rematched, he immediately jumped to LW then much higher until he settled in Welter, and see how he destroyed good fighters conveniently in his way to higher weight class? Because, this is his weight should be! And I am sure that he would destroy JMM this time should they fight in 140lbs or above! But I agree JMM might win this time against Manny should they fight in Featherweight or in Super Fetherweight, and JMM would even annihilate Floyd should they fight in that 125 or 130 or even in 135lbs!Originally posted by ME2 View Post
I respect too your opinion, but I could just see this way. I am optimistic that Pac will win against May on 13 March 2010 because the style of Pac matched well to that Floyd!
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Floyd is a cherry picking chump!Originally posted by Easy Work View PostMayweather is really the last real WW champion...because he beat the last 2 undisputed WW champs.....
hate all you want but at the time Mayweather beat Judah & Baldomir I believe Miguel Cotto was @ 140 and Mosley was @ 154....
you fail!
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His "Money" and "Arrogance" are the focal points of all the hate being targeted at him. Why are you so naive to that fact. No one is gonna argue about his dedication to this sport. He's the best at what he does. His problem for being bashed is due to his long standing poor behavior and less than praise worthy attitude. He's a champion that should show more common sense when it comes to garnering positive fan support and respect. He's failing miserably in that department. JATOriginally posted by Easy Work View Postwhy are you so enamored with Mayweather and his money? What he chooses to do with his money out of the ring is his business. He has dedicated his entire life to the sport of boxing since he was born. He has been in the gym since the day he came out of his mother. He is one of the most disciplined & dedicated boxers in the sport, and if on his off time he wants to flash money around who the hell cares?
Why do you keep mentioning his personality? Since 2005 Mayweather has been the top PPV fighter in the sport......I guess his ****y personality isn't such a turn off after all.....
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Originally posted by Lady Fan 2 View Postyou still fail to understand that "hate" means nothing.....it means more to those who actually do the "hating" than those who get "hated" on.
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Maybe what he's doing is all for show. I guess no one will really know this for certain except for him. JATOriginally posted by jkaisen41 View Post
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Originally posted by Lady Fan 2 View Post
Yet he has been the top PPv draw since 2005? Wow I guess he is "failing miserably" at attracting fans!
Anyone who has "money" period is a target for some form of hate. The "hate" you speak of comes from people on the internet. But its funny because all of the trolls who roam these boards still continue to pay and or watch to see him perform. His attitude is what makes him an attraction.
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