Comments Thread For: Mayweather vs Pacquiao: Arum Wants Manny To KO Floyd

[The Prodigy]

i really don't care who wins i just wanna see what happens but Floyd Mayweather getting knocked out? lets be real here. thats not gonna happen

true the dude hasnt even been knocked down

[ncpitbull]

Floyd fans are counting on his boxing skills, when his skills are grounded in his speed. Floyd is just faster than most other fighters his weight. I don't think that's the case with Pac. Pac is just as quick, if not faster, and he hits harder. I look for a lot of hemming and hawwing from Floyd's camp, maybe a cancelation or two. Floyd doesn't really want this fight.

How can anyone make the distinction "who hits harder"? Unless you have been hit yourself, by both Floyd and Manny.

[karrapato]

It would be awesome seeing Mayweather knocked out!

But that's almost impossible, probably Pacquiao will be troubled in this fight.

[jkaisen41]

[QUOTE=arcticfalconer;6906272]

Dude, again... what's your point??? You talking about things that you don't have any clue about. Roach talks all day... the way like May does... so you believe Roach that's great... but for you to get an degree on psychologie it's still a long road. Roach changes his opinion every day (one interview he states they wil




I don't mean to insult you here, so please don't take this wrong.

You probably won't understand this if you have NOT understood what I have said already to you. BUT:

You remind me of the guy who comes out after a dog fight, he SEES a dog who was winning , no problems, even on a smaller dog , then turns on top , when picked up and his turn to scratch , he stands in the corner, unhurt OUTWARDLY, but QUIT inwardly because he couldn't take the heat , funny thang the heat was coming from the little dog on the bottom. This guy comes outside and makes the statement ,,,,,,,,,,SAY MANG , say I will bet on dat dog anyday !!!!!!!! meaning he will bet on the top dog.

I used to coon hunt with hounds , there are people that keep ****eaters , that couldn't tree a coon if it were right over them, but those people will fight ya and say they have the best dogs.

ITs all in the EYE !! Roach has the best eye in the business.

And YOU can't see that, sorry, dude, happy days to ya

I understand what you say and to a degree I agree with you. Skills are skills but can be overcome no doubt about it... if it wasn't so nobody would need to fight each other and we could deal it on paper.

The thing that is different here is this... Mayweather doesn't need to hurt Pacquiao or Margarito. Mayweather fought his whole career against bigger men who tried to pressure him. He always fought like the smaller man in most fights even if he wasn't. And that's what I'm saying... I never said that Mayweather would knock out Margarito... but that's not needed to win against Margarito. Cotto as seen milds under pressure and if Cotto can't hurt an opponent with his punches he has problems because he ain't a good defender. It happened against Mosley to a degree, against Margarito and against Clottey... Pacquiao of course too. Mayweather ain't.

You talk like Pacquiao can run forward and run over him if he does... it will be short night. Marquez doesn't hit hard either and hurt Pacquiao with accuracy. The same will happen to Pacquiao if he tries to pressure him and does it without plan and goes crazy he will get caught with a shot he doesn't see and that will be it. If you watched you will see that Pacquiao has power and hurts his opponents and even though the stoppages from Cotto and DLH were right... he probably wouldn't have knocked them out... even though he landed a ton of shots... so again... if these guys take shots why shouldn't Mayweather too... and Mayweather won't get hit as often as these too... by the way Mayweather will train his ass off for this fight only because he said it will be easy don't be thinking that he doesn't take him seriously... he will make sure that he can move for 12 rounds.

Roach can have the best eye in the business but Roach ain't fighting Mayweather. Even if you have the right strategy you still need someone to pull it off. And if you look at the Pac-Cotto fight you will see that Manny breathed pretty hard as Cotto ''moved'' It's hard to hunt someone down especially if you get countered coming in. The difference is simply this... Manny is a fighter who really takes teaching well... but it is not natural to him... these guys he fought moving up couldn't exploit that. Mayweather will make him think... and Manny starts thinkin' it's all over... like stated defense is natural to May... I simply don't see it... heart will have nothing to do with this fight... so you will have to wait for somebody else to test May's heart.

[GameBullDawg]

Question to you arcticfalconer,
WOW to you for blowing smoke up Pacquiao's ass dude. What about all the weight-drained fighters such as Delahoya and Cotto? or better yet; what about the old versions of Morales and Barrera. Even still what about a shot underconfidenced Hatton and Cotto, as both were coming off of knockout losses recently? Oh and one more for you dude; what do you have to say about Manny fighting Diaz and the weakest champion in that division.

WOW mang !!!!! You gave no Credit to anybody !!! LOL

If everyone was a shot fighter and you make Pacmang a wretched cheating loser for pickin on everyone, then you must believe that Mayweather will be able to walk up to Manny and spue some of the vile from Hell, that young people don't need to hear, scare pore pacmang to death ,make him go out under the old shade trees in Shady Grove and stand there and tremble then maybe jump the pit , er a rang, and run mang run !!!

All of us who watch boxing and pull for Pacmang are Dumb and know nothing if what you said were true.

We would all be followers like those that followed JIM JONES, you know the guy in Guyana years ago that gave poision to 900 of his followers and they drank it and died !!

If All of the fighters you have spoken of, All, not some were exactly like you said you would be the smartest mang on earth, smiles !

But yer NOT and those were Great fighters but for Diaz, still Pac was coming up in weight.

Pac was in his small era, he is not the same now, but of course you can't see that , smiles.

Question for you Mang the smartest mang on EARTH :

Name one elite fighter Mayweather has fought in the WELTER WEIGHT DIVISION other than those Manny Pacquiao has beaten much worse than he (in case you forgot, ODLH , Hatton),,,,,,,,,,,,JUST ONE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh by the way , I am just saying or asking for just """"""""ONE"""""""?

thanks mang good day to you mang ! smiles

[ncpitbull]

I said the same thing before Tyson-Douglas.

I don't know if the Tyson/Douglas analogy fits here? Wasn't Buster Douglas like a 42-1 betting under dog, going into that fight? This appears (on paper) to be a way more competitive bout.

[shadeyfizzle]

Question to you arcticfalconer,
WOW to you for blowing smoke up Pacquiao's ass dude. What about all the weight-drained fighters such as Delahoya and Cotto? or better yet; what about the old versions of Morales and Barrera. Even still what about a shot underconfidenced Hatton and Cotto, as both were coming off of knockout losses recently? Oh and one more for you dude; what do you have to say about Manny fighting Diaz and the weakest champion in that division.

Hatton was the consensus#1 140lber at the time and had just beaten the consensus #2 140lber right before he fought Pacquiao.

Diaz has a case 4 being the STRONGEST champion at lightweight at the time. Cassamayor was the linear champ at lightweight but straight up robbed santa cruz. Diaz knocked out santa cruz. He was also ducked by Juan Diaz in favor of an optional title defense against nate campbell.

So what if Cotto had lost 2 fights prior to facing Pacquiao??? Would you have preferred he faced Mosley who had lost just 2 fights ago to Cotto???

[Imhotep]

I'm a May fan and I never say never....no one thought Buster Douglas wud KO a prime Mike Tyson did they....no I'm not makin an agrument for Pac fans I'm jus sayin ppl this is boxing **** happens i hope it dont end up like that i think Floyd will school him but I picked Cotto also...

Tyson was`nt in his Prime.His Prime was mid to late 80`s.

[Jetty]

Arum

I understand people not liking Floyd. I know the dude is afraid to lose and that is why he is taking the fight. He know he will win. I like Floyd and I putting money on him but he only fight guy he can beat and if he taking the fight its a 100% chance he know he will win... REMEMBER he dont take chances he will jab jab jab pot shot pot shot move move jab jab ! CHURCH

[jkaisen41]

[QUOTE=arcticfalconer;6906494]

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!! This is fun day at the board , smiles !!!! LOL, I am dying laughin mang , not mad, but laughing having lots of fun ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, smiles

It ain't me what it ain't !!!!!!! LOL

I pull for the GAME FIGHTER ! Margo was tested, in the Cotto fight, and if he did cheat, he was wearing the loaded wraps , we can't discount that, a givin, it somehow doesn't deter from the fact he was proven game. Gameness is the supreme element in fighting ,,to me , for me , of course you can beat a game fighter to death but he will take it. Margo took it without flinching in the fight with Cotto and the pressure he put on him was surmounting , growing , getting more INTENSE, Cotto BROKE.

I don't bet, don't believe in it, takes money from the mouths who need it most,,,,,,,,, and I don't want to bet e points, I get excoriated for this , LOL, whewwwwwwww LOL so funny mang, but IF I DID I wud bet on Margo to pressure Mayweather after taking thousands of shots to the head and making Mayweather WILT and QUIT , why ??????????? Because Mayweather """"""""""REFUSES"""""""""" to be tested in the Welter weight division. He is not showing me the outward signs of a game fighter. They have been named a million times , one is won't take on all comers in the WWs etc........... I certainly could be wrong. Margo had his clocked cleaned in the Mosley fight, and may never be able to take punches again, might just KO'd by a normal guy but back in the day a few years ago, he had the stuff to PRESSURE a fighter to see if THAT fighter could take it or not. May is certainly fast enough to put whup knots all over Margos head but the QUESTION REMAINS,,,,,,,,,,, I said the QUESTION REMAINS could he have taken the PRESSURE from Margo, we will never KNOW unless Pac can pressure May and then we will KNOW !!!!!!!

have fun

Again, I see what you say... but game won't help you alone... Margarito ain't got no boxing skill... and even if he would be the most game fighter out there... you won't beat Mayweather only with gameness... Pacquiao has gameness and has skill... but now he faces a guy who is bigger then him... who matches him in pretty much every aspect that he has (with the exception of offense), tops him easy defensive wise (I'm not sold on his defense yet, he fought guys who had lesser hand and footspeed as well as timing... Cotto is a good timer and caught him pretty open as he came after him) and is a two handed fighter... DLH, Cotto and so on are basically one hand fighters... again, I see what you mean but I pretty much don't see it. Footspeed coming forward is one thing... footspeed going backwards is a whole different game... and if you think that Manny can walk though his punches... I tell you, you will be surprised that May can hurt him.

I don't know about the Cotto fight... I ain't mean that with cheating because it ain't proven... Cotto looked pretty strange but who knows... I'm talking about the Mosley fight... yeah, and he did I don't take it away from him that he's a tough somebitch... but Mayweather ain't Cotto. I mean Cotto leaned in his uppercuts and **** *looooooooooool* But here's a major question for you and that's probably a question where you see where I'm coming from when I talk about you talking about heart etc. You like or liked Margarito... I guess that you ain't like cheating right. So why was you a fan or Margarito. Because you thought he is game... he has character etc. right? That's what you thought... but in the end it comes out that he's a cheater... what I want to say is... Mayweather on the surface probably looks like coward or something... but what do you he got inside??? You was fooled by Margarito... where do you wanna know that it ain't the same with Floyd. Because he fights like a pretty boy? I mean guys like Leonard, Malignaggi etc. are also probably pretty boy fighters but can take good shot too and had character and guts... I know that you believe in Roach... but like said... he says this and that... I can also say that Pacquiao had a strange look on his face in the first Marquez fight... like he wanted none anymore and looked around... but based on that I wouldn't say he ain't got no heart... Ali during his career wanted to quit in some bouts and still you wouldn't question him... you can have an opinion but until now it's not proven or???

Yeah, like you said I guess... WE don't know... but until I see a sign I don't know why I should think the negative side of it... Martinez also looked like he wanted to quit against Williams after 6 round or something and he kept his act together... only because you're a pretty boy fighter doesn't mean you ain't got no heart.