Comments Thread For: Mayweather vs Pacquiao: Arum Wants Manny To KO Floyd

[jtiger78]

who in boxing is really ready for fmj after their best performance? i am pretty sure fmj would need time to get ready for manny also. your sig make no sense. dumdass "peeleft:

ill add this to my top excuses of why manny lost list!!!!

[GRUSTLER]

who in boxing is really ready for fmj after their best performance? i am pretty sure fmj would need time to get ready for manny also. your sig make no sense. dumdass "peeleft:

Your not just an amateur but an ******* amateur and an idiot to
coincide with you ******ity. How does my sig make no sense when
Roach is the one that said it? Do you even watch Boxing or follow
the sport at all? Do you think I made this up? You don't even see
passed your own nose. Manny just dominated Miguel Cotto and others
before him with ease using a style he is comfortable using but Roach
feels like that style is not good enough for Manny to use against Floyd.
So your trying to tell me that Manny used different styles in all of his
past 4 fights? Obviously NO because that same style he has been so
successful with is not enough for Floyd. I didn't say it, Freddie Roach
said it DUMB ASS, so go beef with him.

[GRUSTLER]

All teasing aside , this is ought to be a great fight, one I have wanted to happen before Mayweather came out of retirement.

A few years back , I was shocked how Pac beat Barrera , then I knew in my heart he couldn't beat Morales the GREAT , I felt he was one dimensional, but I also knew that he was evidently learning still, I used to watch Freddie fight LIVE on tv and his trainer was none other that Futch the GREAT, having learned from one of the greatest trainers of all time he has become the greatest trainer of this generation and felt he might could turn him around so when the next Morales and third Morales fight took place I was mesmerized at the accomplishments and have seen him improve ever since.

Since putting on weight and demolishing opponents that were supposed to annihilate Pac, he has one more to go. Win or lose he has locked in his legacy as An ALL TIME GREAT !! He has taken on ALL COMERS. IRON SHARPENS IRON !!!

Question for Grustler:

Name the IRON that has sharpened Mayweather ?

While I agree with you that Pac has a lot of heart and determination
and has improved, Mayweather was on another level elite wise while
Pac was fighitng with one hand. I give props to Pacquiao but I think
Floyd distracts many with his mouth and they forget how great he really
is in the ring. I remember before Gatti, I hated on Mayweather too,
thought he was overrated but once he put on a display in the ring
against a man that was known for his wars I became a fan because
it was a remarkable performance. Instead of me hating more on Floyd
by discrediting Arturo Gatti (RIP) I recognized how good Floyd was/is.
I have watched many if not all of his fights professionally and he is
a very good fighter/Boxing. The guys he fought were tough, determined
and good but Mayweather was just better PERIOD. How can people
say Zab was a bad win for Floyd because Baldomir beat him but then
give credit to Cotto for beating Zab? I watched that Zab fight and Floyd
put on another great performance. I didn't only look at what Zab did early
but saw what Floyd did and it was a beat down. My point is, people
should stop hating on fighters and just see it for what it is. I bet
against Pac because of his flaws in the ring not because of him personally.
I just call it how I see it and that's the way it should be and not making
up excuses and robbing fighters/boxers of their achievements.

[jkaisen41]

[QUOTE=jtiger78;6905541]

VERY well put most pac fans are disrespectful and know nothing about boxing

I wouldn't say it like this... there are also Pacquiao fans here who are respectful... and I also have no problem with the pinoy guys who love their fighter. I mean how couldn't you like/love Pacquiao. Great fighter, great dude as it seems. But most of them don't understand is if I predict a May win it's not like I disrespect Pacquiao or whatever or them as fans. You will never hear me say a bad word about Pacquiao. But they take it personal and can't even argue on a mannered level. They always have to make another fighter look bad to make their fighter look bad... and that pisses me off. If you have to make another fighter bad there is something wrong... either your fighter ain't as good as you think or he simply doesn't have a resume to follow up.

By the way I'm not even a big Mayweather fan... of his character or something... I just love boxing and skills... and Mayweather gives that to me that's why I respect him... but even if he looses the world doesn't come down on me or something. I just defend him because there is so much injustice about him going on it's really crazy. Some even have bad things to say about his charity work... it's crazy... like he slaughtered their family or something...

[baracuda]

I did pick against him but also was for him in the same breath.

so you were only half wrong with your predictions?..........lol

[jkaisen41]

While I agree with you that Pac has a lot of heart and determination
and has improved, Mayweather was on another level elite wise while
Pac was fighitng with one hand. I give props to Pacquiao but I think
Floyd distracts many with his mouth and they forget how great he really
is in the ring. I remember before Gatti, I hated on Mayweather too,
thought he was overrated but once he put on a display in the ring
against a man that was known for his wars I became a fan because
it was a remarkable performance. Instead of me hating more on Floyd
by discrediting Arturo Gatti (RIP) I recognized how good Floyd was/is.
I have watched many if not all of his fights professionally and he is
a very good fighter/Boxing. The guys he fought were tough, determined
and good but Mayweather was just better PERIOD. How can people
say Zab was a bad win for Floyd because Baldomir beat him but then
give credit to Cotto for beating Zab? I watched that Zab fight and Floyd
put on another great performance. I didn't only look at what Zab did early
but saw what Floyd did and it was a beat down. My point is, people
should stop hating on fighters and just see it for what it is. I bet
against Pac because of his flaws in the ring not because of him personally.
I just call it how I see it and that's the way it should be and not making
up excuses and robbing fighters/boxers of their achievements.

That's what I'm talking about... first off nobody talks bad about his resume at his weight classes... they talk bad about since moving up to 140. And you know what he probably ain't always fought the best... but who does if he moves up... he looked for names to make him more famous and that's what every boxer does.

And guys like Judah, Mitchell, Baldomir hey they won't go down as all-time greats BUT I could easily tell you probably 20-30 names on every boxers resume that these guys were better or at least equal... so I really don't get what the bitching is all about... but I guess it's because he is Mayweather.

[jtiger78]

[QUOTE=jkaisen41;6905692]

I wouldn't say it like this... there are also Pacquiao fans here who are respectful... and I also have no problem with the pinoy guys who love their fighter. I mean how couldn't you like/love Pacquiao. Great fighter, great dude as it seems. But most of them don't understand is if I predict a May win it's not like I disrespect Pacquiao or whatever or them as fans. You will never hear me say a bad word about Pacquiao. But they take it personal and can't even argue on a mannered level. They always have to make another fighter look bad to make their fighter look bad... and that pisses me off. If you have to make another fighter bad there is something wrong... either your fighter ain't as good as you think or he simply doesn't have a resume to follow up.

By the way I'm not even a big Mayweather fan... of his character or something... I just love boxing and skills... and Mayweather gives that to me that's why I respect him... but even if he looses the world doesn't come down on me or something. I just defend him because there is so much injustice about him going on it's really crazy. Some even have bad things to say about his charity work... it's crazy... like he slaughtered their family or something...

i said most pac fans did u read that? to love pac is good i like pac myself but to just say mayweather is a slouch ang gay and a runner is another thing

[GameBullDawg]

I think Floyd went for all the big money fights like Manny has done
in his career as of recent. In my opinion, Roach has people fooled
to believe that Pacquiao was in danger with his last opponents but
before every last one of them fights he said something about how they
were past it or done. He has just went on record to say that Floyd
is Manny's toughest fight because out of all the supposedly bigger,
stronger and more dangerous opponents he has fought NONE of them
are on Floyd's level and if you don't believe me just check the sig.
You guys on Boxing scene know me by now and I like to keep the facts
out there and in plain view. While you praise Manny for taking tough
challenges and Floyd for ducking them, Roach feels Floyd is Manny's
biggest threat to the point he has to change Manny dominating
style up to get a chance to beat Floyd. Can't you see that? Also
can't YOU see that Manny fought two guys Floyd already beat? From
that fight Floyd had with Oscar, he saw Oscar was past it and how easy
it was to exploit Hatton. Can't you see that?

Ain't this fun , smiles !!!!!

First the most I can give you is that you answered my QUESTION , YES , indirectly.

I want to answer yours directly.

Grustler : Can't I see that Roach feels Floyd is Mannys greatest threat and a need to change up his style?

Answer:

YES !!!! but not a need to change his style unless that means to make adjustments due to the change of style May presents

Grustler: Can't you see that Manny has fought two guys May has already beaten ?

Answer:

YES !!!! It was the difference between daylight and Dark !!

Mayweather ran and shoulder rolled while Manny totally Destroyed them !!!!

Whewwwwww the answer to your last QUESTION is YES !!!!

He knew that when he trained Oscar for the fight with May.

Now comes the most important thing you will read from now to the fight , READY::
















Roach has the best eye in the business, he knows Mayweather , he has the fighter that will see what he sees and will implement it in da RANG, and just like humpty dumpty mang Mayweather WILL Fall !!!!!!!

Like with dogs , mang, some have an eye, while some will never have the eye !!!

All we all are doing is repeating what "WE" See which is good mang , its good , glad to read your thoughts mang and others, some I don't, so we are matching thoughts.

I say Roach has the best eye in the business. He saw in Manny years ago what it would take to have an ACE and he has it in Pac. Aces' are hard to come by , many use the term lightly but there are not many , Pac's PROVEN himself, now he is going up in weight again to face Mayweather. Pac come in about 143-144, May comes in at 147 , the night of the fight he will weigh about 160, Pac will weigh 147 or 8 and its one more for the Bulldawg.

One thing I hammer to death is the need for deep deep gameness !!!!!!! Pacs got it !!! He has proven himself all his life against bigger men constantly !!!!

Mayweather has shown (eye) me confusion. This is not the true heart of a "fighter", more of a money maker, if that is what you like , someone who won't take chances if that is YOUR """"EYE"""" of a fighter in the ring, have at it , all the best, its like he has been afraid to take on all comers and proves it by NOT doing it !!!

One last thought before the castigation and the excoriation is this: That first sentence you wrote is incorrect. May turned down 8 Mill to fight Margo and chose Balto who had tons of defeats and lied about taking more money.

My """EYE""" may fail me, I may be wrong, but I see """CUR""" written ALL OVER MAY !!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not talking about his skillls I am talking about the heart!

[jkaisen41]

[QUOTE=jtiger78;6905742]

i said most pac fans did u read that? to love pac is good i like pac myself but to just say mayweather is a slouch ang gay and a runner is another thing

Yeah, that's true... and they will get surprised... no I've overread that *looooooooooool*

Mayweather was in ''wars'' as well... they always act like he was never ever touched... anyone seen his fight Jesus Chavez... Emmanuel Augustus... Corley to a degree... I mean sure these guys ain't the hardest hitters in the game but it's like he get's hit once and falls right over.

And to bring his heart and character out... that's a road that every fighter tries to find... I ppl think that Castillo beat him then it wasn't because he wouldn't hit Floyd right? Castillo landed good body shots on him but it ain't really bothered him... and Castillo was a bad mother at a time... ppl only see his losses in his career but it wasn't because he was the lesser fighter only lost because of cuts.

[GRUSTLER]

so you were only half wrong with your predictions?..........lol

If you would have read the whole post instead of what you wanted to
try and make a joke of me or look bad you would have noticed that I said
I was not confident in both fighters and that's why I was not certain.