Does Marquez have a better resume and legacy than Morales and Barrera?

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  • Zarco
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    #141
    Originally posted by miron_lang
    Take a look at this list.

    Morales-------Barrera------Marquez

    Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33)
    Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37)
    Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz
    Chavez --------A. Sanchez----Medina
    Zaragoza ------Tapia ----------Gainer
    Chi --------------Salud ---------Juarez
    Hernandez----- Ayala ----------Peden
    McCullough----- Juarez ---------Salido
    Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo


    ----------1----------2----------3



    Is that NOT Clear enough???
    well what ever dude. i guess ill just wait from now on and see what Marquez does in the rest of his career. im going to keep having JMM over both of them and other people will have their opinions. I am more impressed with some of the things I have seen JMM do in the ring than Barrera or Morales.

    But based on the chart that you posted, them beating them selves plus a Pacquiao(JMM gave Morales the blue print) and Hamed win makes them so much greater than JMM? because below those 2 wins, the rest of the names are nothing great. JMM already has a win over Barrera just like Morales, so what other name should he beat to become equally as great as Morales or Barrera? Because below the first two names, Marquez already has an equal resume for your 1 and 2 list.

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    • strugler
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      #142
      Nice job TS......................great thread..................your question is so.............GREAT.............................L OL

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      • Zarco
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        #143
        my question is like this...wtf made morales and barrera ATG's? wins against themselves? so are Rafa and Izzy ATG's? was it a pac win for morales? because as far as I am concerned morales and barrera made pac an ATG. was it a win over hamed? a hamed win makes you an ATG because of his famous entrances and flashiness? cause he sure doesent have the resume. the rest of their resume is nothing great.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Zarco
          well what ever dude. i guess ill just wait from now on and see what Marquez does in the rest of his career. im going to keep having JMM over both of them and other people will have their opinions. I am more impressed with some of the things I have seen JMM do in the ring than Barrera or Morales.

          But based on the chart that you posted, them beating them selves plus a Pacquiao(JMM gave Morales the blue print) and Hamed win makes them so much greater than JMM? because below those 2 wins, the rest of the names are nothing great. JMM already has a win over Barrera just like Morales, so what other name should he beat to become equally as great as Morales or Barrera? Because below the first two names, Marquez already has an equal resume for your 1 and 2 list.

          That Graph is very easy to understand if you didnt have your opinion already fixed for this matter.

          Barrera
          Hamed was the overwhelming favorite ang got schooled
          Erik Morales is P4P prime fighter

          Morales
          UD'd 27 Year Pacquiao
          Beat Prime Barrera



          Barrera and Cassamayor are the 2 Best Fighters in JMM's Resume and they'are 33 and 37 at the time. I know this wont change your opinion but this is a poll based thread. Look at the results Maybe you need to rethink your opinion

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            #145
            Originally posted by Zarco
            well what ever dude. i guess ill just wait from now on and see what Marquez does in the rest of his career. im going to keep having JMM over both of them and other people will have their opinions. I am more impressed with some of the things I have seen JMM do in the ring than Barrera or Morales.

            But based on the chart that you posted, them beating them selves plus a Pacquiao(JMM gave Morales the blue print) and Hamed win makes them so much greater than JMM? because below those 2 wins, the rest of the names are nothing great. JMM already has a win over Barrera just like Morales, so what other name should he beat to become equally as great as Morales or Barrera? Because below the first two names, Marquez already has an equal resume for your 1 and 2 list.

            dude, what JMM win can you say that trumps over EM & MAB?

            Morales beat Pac, MAB, Genaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Zaragoza etc
            Barrera beat Hamed (some say he unifies the featherweight division), Morales (2x, both prime)

            while JMM beats the Pedens & the Medinas of the world while losing to Chris John & Norwood

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            • Zarco
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              #146
              Originally posted by MaD vEiN
              dude, what JMM win can you say that trumps over EM & MAB?

              Morales beat Pac, MAB, Genaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Zaragoza etc
              Barrera beat Hamed (some say he unifies the featherweight division), Morales (2x, both prime)

              while JMM beats the Pedens & the Medinas of the world while losing to Chris John & Norwood
              your a clear hater. JMM didnt just beat peden and medina.

              and erik morales vs genaro hernandez was a clear robbery!
              Originally posted by miron_lang
              That Graph is very easy to understand if you didnt have your opinion already fixed for this matter.

              Barrera
              Hamed was the overwhelming favorite ang got schooled
              Erik Morales is P4P prime fighter

              Morales
              UD'd 27 Year Pacquiao
              Beat Prime Barrera



              Barrera and Cassamayor are the 2 Best Fighters in JMM's Resume and they'are 33 and 37 at the time. I know this wont change your opinion but this is a poll based thread. Look at the results Maybe you need to rethink your opinion
              ok, still weird to me how those 2 wins for each make a fighter an ATG. hamed was a hype job and didnt have the resume to be great, and when morales beat pac, pac wasnt even a HOF'er. because besides those 2, the rest of their resumes arent great
              Last edited by Zarco; 11-11-2009, 03:57 AM.

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              • Bretty Poy32
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                #147
                how old are you when you became a big fan of jmm, zarco?

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                • hammerhiem
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                  #148
                  your a clear hater. JMM didnt just beat peden and medina.
                  Wow he put a beating on Medina.... like 9 people did before him and 3 more after him... as for Peden.. the dude got shutout by MAB's age ravaged corpse. and his claim to fame is being the lucky guy that Nate Campbell stood in front of and asked him to crack him on the chin.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Zarco
                    your a clear hater. JMM didnt just beat peden and medina.

                    and erik morales vs genaro hernandez was a clear robbery!

                    ok, still weird to me how those 2 wins for each make a fighter an ATG. hamed was a hype job and didnt have the resume to be great, and when morales beat pac, pac wasnt even a HOF'er. because besides those 2, the rest of their resumes arent great
                    I think you guys are confusing Genaro Hernandez with Carlos Hernandez. And Hernandez was clearly whipped by Morales. The only controversial fight that Morales had in his career was againt Espadas. And he rematched him and KOd him.

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