Comments Thread For: Xander Zayas fights Jaron Ennis in Brooklyn on June 27

[boxingitis]

I get what your saying about fighting in saudi and Turki and all but at the end of the day his promoter is Golden Boy and not Turki (turki is a bonus). The fact is like i said earlier Ortiz and his team self inflicted a Mickey Garcia 2.0 on themselves by trying to nigotiate a fight without there promoter.

As far as Lima is concered obviously he's not better than Ortiz because he took the fight, it was also obvious that Lima came in taking a chance fighting the better fighter and was a tune up fight from the get go and Lima understood it to be so plus it was a good payday for him. You can't compare the 2 scenarios. Ortiz has no chips to play other than having a name which at the end of the day is his own fault.

As for the underpaid part look at Crawford and a fight i brought up before, he was with Top Rank and took a fight against Ricky Burns and he was the underdog in that fight he also didnt get millions on that fight even though he had a name as a prospect. Ortiz seems to be seriously unwilling to do that, no one can say he didnt have a chance to do it thats for sure.

Ortiz turned down Zayas 2 times those are facts.
Ortiz, his team or promoter turned down Boots 2 times ( 3 times if you remember the 147 days where Ortiz said he couldnt make 147 anymore and had to leave for 154 and never signed a contract that was sent to him) those are facts.

Prove the facts. All I know is Boots declined to fight Ortiz in Saudi. Ortiz decline to fight Zayas because he wa fighting Madrimov who was more accomplished than Zayas at that time.

[cruz1383]

Ortiz has had a string of bad luck and some of these fights hes missed are Ortiz and his team's issues. Boots has not declined to fight Ortiz we all know that. As for Madrimov being the better fight Madrimov was sick with lung issues how is that a better fight? On paper yes hes better at that time if you ommit the facts that he was coming off a loss and couldnt breath right not to mention he had to cancel is previous comback fight in december prior to the fight. It also wasn't a secret he had lung issues and to this day still has lung issues.

The fact is that Ortiz is sidelined and its because of him and his team's own doing.

Oh and while doing some research i had forgot that Ortiz also declined Crawford twice... lol

https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/xander-zayas-jilted-by-vergil-ortiz-wholl-instead-fight-madrimov-i-accepted-fight-never-heard-back

https://www.newsstitchedmedia.com/post/wbo-president-confirms-virgil-ortiz-declined-crawford-twice

Target Date	Opponent	Status	Primary Reason for Cancellation
March 19, 2022	Michael McKinson	CANCELED	Ortiz diagnosed with Rhabdomyolysis 5 days before the fight.
August 6, 2022	Michael McKinson	FOUGHT	Rescheduled date; Ortiz won via TKO9.
March 18, 2023	Eimantas Stanionis	POSTPONED	Stanionis required emergency appendectomy.
April 29, 2023	Eimantas Stanionis	POSTPONED	Ortiz suffered a recurrence of Rhabdomyolysis.
July 8, 2023	Eimantas Stanionis	CANCELED	Ortiz fainted during the weight cut 3 days before the fight.
Early 2024	Terence Crawford	DECLINED	WBO ordered the fight at 147; Team Ortiz declined due to weight/money.
August 3, 2024	Tim Tszyu	CANCELED	Tszyu failed medical clearance due to a severe cut (from his Fundora fight).
February 2025	Xander Zayas	COLLAPSED	Ortiz team rejected Zayas as "not world-level" enough yet.
December 2025	Xander Zayas	COLLAPSED	"Email-Gate": A public 50/50 offer was made but never legally signed due to ortiz not wanting to go to Puerto Rico.
January 2026	Jaron "Boots" Ennis	COLLAPSED	Preliminary agreement failed; Golden Boy never returned the contract.
April 18, 2026	Jaron "Boots" Ennis	CANCELED	Legal Injunction: Ortiz sued Goldenboy and a Judge blocked Ortiz from signing the Saudi/Matchroom deal.

[Oregonian]

I have no idea what you're complaining about. They tried to get the Ortiz fight but Vergil started negotiating with third parties and Matchroom while excluding Oscar. Don't get me wrong. I love Vergil Ortiz but he signed a contract lol. Fundora just fought and wouldn't be ready on that date. Plus, the Fundora fight would only work out if they can reach some type of agreement on where it would be televised. Saying Boots is ducking by fighting a world champion is crazy. You actually have to take the logistics, dates, and money into consideration before you start screaming about ducking. It's childish.

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You can't have a conversation with that fool. He worships Ortiz. The things he criticizes Boots are exactly what Ortiz does. Ortiz has been a pro for 10 years and has never fought for a title. Boots is about to collect two titles at 154. He already won two titles at 147. Boots will unify 154 by end of year and LAchargers373 will still be criticizing Boots while Ortiz moves to 160 without fighting for a title.

[Oregonian]

Prove the facts. All I know is Boots declined to fight Ortiz in Saudi. Ortiz decline to fight Zayas because he wa fighting Madrimov who was more accomplished than Zayas at that time.

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There's always going to be two narratives told. It is 2026 now and Boots is about to collect TWO belts. Is there any reason why Ortiz will now not fight Boots? Or any of the other two belt holders?

[Oregonian]

Who is rank or consider a better fighter Zayas or Ortiz. People wanted Ortiz vs Ennis with NO belts on the line
Ortiz vs Ennis is more intriguing than Zayas vs Ennis that has 2 belts on the line.

Madrimov and Bahachcuk are better names than anyone Zander has beaten. Plus he will get schooled by Ennis. Those 2 names are also better than anything on Boots Resume. I think Vergil wants to get payed for one of the biggest fights in America. He thinks he is worth x and GB thinks he is worst x. Every employee thinks they are worth more.

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Why are you ignoring the most important point cruz1383 is making? Madrimov was coming off a loss when Ortiz fought him and he had a lung issue. Ortiz left 147 because he had a medical issue. Had he fought Boots and got beat, would you have given Boots credit for beating a sick Ortiz?

[Oregonian]

Herrera, orozco, hooker, kavluaskis, mckinson, bohachek, madrimov and heck even lubin.


Lmfao meanwhile booty has nothing stanoinis and Karen

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The typical deflection with you.

Your boy Ortiz fought Dulorme in his 154 debut. Dulorme had been KO'd by Boots four years earlier. So let's try this one more time - was beating Dulorme a better accomplishment than Boots unifying two belts at 147? Or the two belts Boots is about to collect at 154?
It's a basic question that a 5 year old can answer without going into semantics.

[Grandma Lover]

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The typical deflection with you.

Your boy Ortiz fought Dulorme in his 154 debut. Dulorme had been KO'd by Boots four years earlier. So let's try this one more time - was beating Dulorme a better accomplishment than Boots unifying two belts at 147? Or the two belts Boots is about to collect at 154?
It's a basic question that a 5 year old can answer without going into semantics.

Youre the one deflecting I didn't mention delirme for a reason. He was a trash opponent

Like I said ortiz has a better resume

Booty was given a belt by a guy he ducked and unified against some nobody lmfao cry about it

[Oregonian]

Youre the one deflecting I didn't mention delirme for a reason. He was a trash opponent

Like I said ortiz has a better resume

Booty was given a belt by a guy he ducked and unified against some nobody lmfao cry about it

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Same old … but fret not.
Boots is about to collect TWO belts. Most likely will fight the winner of Fundora and Kelly afterwards.

Your boy can continue “building on his great hall of fame” resume. He can move to 160 next year and continue to “build his resume” without fighting for a single belt holder. He can move to 168 after that.

[LAchargers373]

Oregonian you are my biggest fan stop tagging me for attention you weirdo lol. You”re fighting everyone in every thread life or death arguing with people over Bootsy ennis lol. I got no interest in that. Anyone with any knowledge of boxing history understands my point of view. I’ve always said Bootsy is very talented. He just don’t fight the best guys. He already turned down the Ortiz fight once. Can you honestly say Xander xayas is better than Madrimov?Lubin? Bohachuk? I like xayas but his last fight he looked very meh. Split decision with bum barou was very uninspiring. But hey if you like these types of fights where one guy is heavily favoured then I can see why you like Bootsy ennis.

[Oregonian]

Oregonian you are my biggest fan stop tagging me for attention you weirdo lol. You”re fighting everyone in every thread life or death arguing with people over Bootsy ennis lol. I got no interest in that. Anyone with any knowledge of boxing history understands my point of view. I’ve always said Bootsy is very talented. He just don’t fight the best guys. He already turned down the Ortiz fight once. Can you honestly say Xander xayas is better than Madrimov?Lubin? Bohachuk? I like xayas but his last fight he looked very meh. Split decision with bum barou was very uninspiring. But hey if you like these types of fights where one guy is heavily favoured then I can see why you like Bootsy ennis.

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Ortiz ran away from Boots at 147 and he is doing EXACTLY the same thing at 154 despite Boots stepping up to him in the ring. Meanwhile, Boots unified TWO belts at 147 and he's about to unify TWO belts at 154 in June. After that, Boots will unify the next two belts. So once again, what is Ortiz doing at 154 and he's already three years in.