Comments Thread For: Examining the scorecards of legends ? and explaining how they could ?steal? decisions

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Boxing judge Tom Schreck explains why it's important to focus purely on the boxing when scoring the fights of legends
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[Smash]

Greatness takes care of itself.
It doesn’t require help from a judge’s scorecard.


oh yes it does lol

have u seen the crappy home guy a side decisions that get rolled out over and over again led by the likes of addy byrd and the loonies?

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"Leonard vs. Hagler

Leonard stole moments; Hagler won minutes."

I believe you and I are in the same camp on the outcome that SHOULD have been on that one, Mr. Schreck.

I saw the fight easily for Hagler, who I felt dominated the second half of the fight by clearly landing the harder, cleaner, more effective and more frequent punches. I think you really need to have a soft spot to score the fight to Sugar Ray. Here is how I scored the fight:

Hagler: 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
Leonard: 1, 2, 3, 4

I could see round 6 going either way (but rounds 2 & 3 were close too). And while Leonard did some nice work in other rounds, particularly 9 (best/most exciting round of the fight), 11 & 12, Hagler clearly won those rounds in my opinion.

And Judge Jose Juan Guerra was either corrupt in scoring that fight or was a complete imbecile. I go with the former.

[SteveM]

Not covered here is favouritism to 'The'Great' who as well as being great is also the one who enables great fight nights to occur because they are so popular and can fill out a arena/stadium/casino.
Referees and Judges get paid more for those bouts. The boxers, promoters, stadium/casino owners and tv networks all make more money. It's hard and unpopular work to score a fight the way Tom describes above - so much easier, and better for nearly everyone, to award all the close rounds to the legend.
And never mind even legends. Just a regular A side fighter gets preferential treatment viz-a-viz Callum Simpson ths past Saturday night who somehow was up on the cards with his flurries of pitter-patter punches. Or for complete favouratism consider Jose Ramirez vs Mauricio Herrera from 7-8 years ago - complete robbery.