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    Comments Thread For: The Beltline: An interview with the AI judge assigned to Jake Paul vs. Gervonta Davis

    Is truth stranger than fiction and, if so, where does AI come into it, writes Elliot Worsell
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    Jake Paul is the first fighter to bring AI to boxing, praise be Jake Paul.

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    • CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
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      I don't think that AI will ever replace human judges , nor should it. A lot of the complaints about judging come from people who are mad that their guy lost. People who were drinking , getting high , talking with friends , let the dogs out in the middle of a round , on the phone, etc, etc, instead of watching the way that a judge is trained to do. Then they get on the Internet and scream about corruption, this that and the other. I will agree that sometimes I wonder what fight a guy was watching but unless I watched with 100% concentration, keeping track of who was ahead constantly, I'm not going to assume that a person is corrupt. That's a really serious accusation. If one judge consistently is getting scores that don't align with what the other two judges are seeing then they need to be talked to by the commission because although judging boxing is subjective everyone is watching the same fight and should be seeing pretty much the same thing the majority of the time . Even then , I would assume incompetence first before corruption.
      Last edited by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart; Yesterday, 10:35 PM.

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        #4
        I've criticised Worsell before but this is a brilliant piece

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          Thanks for this. It was absolute agony to read

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            #6
            Originally posted by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
            I don't think that AI will ever replace human judges , nor should it. A lot of the complaints about judging come from people who are mad that their guy lost. People who were drinking , getting high , talking with friends , let the dogs out in the middle of a round , on the phone, etc, etc, instead of watching the way that a judge is trained to do. Then they get on the Internet and scream about corruption, this that and the other. I will agree that sometimes I wonder what fight a guy was watching but unless I watched with 100% concentration, keeping track of who was ahead constantly, I'm not going to assume that a person is corrupt. That's a really serious accusation. If one judge consistently is getting scores that don't align with what the other two judges are seeing then they need to be talked to by the commission because although judging boxing is subjective everyone is watching the same fight and should be seeing pretty much the same thing the majority of the time . Even then , I would assume incompetence first before corruption.
            CJ Ross and Adelaide Byrd are the first two that spring to mind. Also John Lewis caused a big faff recently with awful judging.

            The issue with boxing is that there’s lots of money on the line, it’s very poorly regulated and the human element is always an easy and workable area. Judges know who put the card on and who has influence on them being picked.

            If you’re a big promoter, you are absolutely going to try to veto a judge who doesn’t consistently hand in favourable cards for your fighters. And if your fighter is the A-side then it’s very likely that will be the case.

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            • 57Blues
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              #7
              Originally posted by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
              I don't think that AI will ever replace human judges , nor should it. A lot of the complaints about judging come from people who are mad that their guy lost. People who were drinking , getting high , talking with friends , let the dogs out in the middle of a round , on the phone, etc, etc, instead of watching the way that a judge is trained to do. Then they get on the Internet and scream about corruption, this that and the other. I will agree that sometimes I wonder what fight a guy was watching but unless I watched with 100% concentration, keeping track of who was ahead constantly, I'm not going to assume that a person is corrupt. That's a really serious accusation. If one judge consistently is getting scores that don't align with what the other two judges are seeing then they need to be talked to by the commission because although judging boxing is subjective everyone is watching the same fight and should be seeing pretty much the same thing the majority of the time . Even then , I would assume incompetence first before corruption.
              Another thing i notice about those of us who complain about judges and i do sometimes, when they interfere with the action inside the ropes or try to be part of the show then yea i complain but anyhow like i was saying, I notice if an announcer says it was a terrible job on the judges part people go with that flow as if there have never been a biased or prejudiced announcer, certainly not one with motives and designs for certain fighters by way of Promoter....................on another level i could not care less about the spectical that is being called a fight with these two clowns.....................i need no one anywhere to tell me those and that simple fact....

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