If Crawford moves up 2 divisions and beats Canelo will it be a better win than Mayweather's 2013 win over Canelo?

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  • SouthpawRight
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    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Buds not supposed to best nelo. There's a reason for that. History backs that up. That bud wins can even win a close fight is mammoth achievement in itself, let alone try win clear but competitive decision like floyd did.
    Just getting a win and having hand raised bud will be pleased even if robbing nelo, bud will take that
    sentiment would indicate TBud has a shot

    Saul is the favorite but TBud is far from a low hoper

    Undercards Paneer Amir was ahead on the cards going into the 6th round where Saul stopped him

    So TBud has a shot

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  • hugh grant
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    Originally posted by SouthpawRight


    first off TBud would have to 9-3 Past Prime Saul to be in the discussion

    Floyd 11-1'd Green Saul
    Bivol 10-2'd P4P KING PRIME Saul

    Floyd and Bivol fought fresher Sauls
    Buds not supposed to best nelo. There's a reason for that. History backs that up. That bud can even win a close fight is a mammoth achievement in itself, let alone try win clear but competitive decision like floyd did.
    Just getting a win and having hand raised bud will be pleased even if robbing nelo, bud will take that
    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-09-2025, 02:19 PM.

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  • SouthpawRight
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    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Oh please? Floyd fought a green, and used a cw to make Nelo as docile as possible to make Nel o as less dangerous as possible. Floyd had fought at 154. Buds never fought at 160 even.
    Give it up, let this one go, your credibility is at stake here. Just concede that bud has a singular win better than floyd has, but overall you like Floyd's achievements as a whole. There are many fighters with better wins than Floyd's win over nelo. Why is it so bad that bud has too?


    first off TBud would have to 9-3 Past Prime Saul to be in the discussion

    Floyd 11-1'd Green Saul
    Bivol 10-2'd P4P KING PRIME Saul

    Floyd and Bivol fought fresher Sauls

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  • hugh grant
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    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
    hell no

    PERFORMANCE matters

    barely getting by a past prime Saul would be ECLIPSED by Floyd shutting down a young Saul
    Oh please? Floyd fought a green, and used a cw to make Nelo as docile as possible to make Nel o as less dangerous as possible. Floyd had fought at 154. Buds never fought at 160 even.
    Give it up, let this one go, your credibility is at stake here. Just concede that bud has a singular win better than floyd has, but overall you like Floyd's achievements as a whole. There are many fighters with better wins than Floyd's win over nelo. Why is it so bad that bud has too?
    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-09-2025, 01:18 PM.

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    Originally posted by champion4ever

    No, I didn't say he would be effective. All I am saying is unlike Canelo's past seven or eight opponents; Bud is coming to hit, fight and win by way of knockout if possible.

    No, he is not coming to lay down like Canelo's previous opponents had who gone into survival mode; Just so they could say they went the distance. However, only time will reveal what both men are made up of and who knows?

    Perhaps it's all a pipe dream on my part into believing that Crawford can still pull this off by winning this fight despite the size differential. Roy Jones bulked up 20 pounds of muscle and defeated John "The Quiet Man" Ruiz.

    Moreover, Jones spotted him more than 30 lbs on the day of the weigh in too. I can say that Canelo has never been hit by a man like Crawford before who can set up traps and land punches from different angles.

    Likewise, I will say that the uppercut will play a very huge factor in Terence winning this fight also.
    It is a pipe dream. Come on, bro, Jones vs Ruiz cannot compare to Canelo vs Crawford. Ruiz was one of the weakest HW champions of our time. RJJ was an ATG, who was favored to win that fight 9-5. Canelo and Crawford are both ATGs, but Bud is nearly 38 and coming up three weight classes below Alvarez.

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  • SouthpawRight
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    Originally posted by OffTheBack

    No, Jumping up 2 Weight Classes Alone Outdid Floyd. It Doesn't Matter If TBud Wins A Close Decision Or A Shutout. By TBud Jumping Up From 147 To 168 Already Outshine What Floyd Did Against A Young Inexperience Canelo.
    hell no

    PERFORMANCE matters

    barely getting by a past prime Saul would be ECLIPSED by Floyd and Bivol shutting down a young Saul

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  • champion4ever
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    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

    I've never seen Canelo even seriously hurt, let alone down, and he's fought naturally bigger men than Crawford. Are you sure that a suddenly bulked-up WW who's not used to being bulked-up will be effective? I'm not. AND he's nearly 38. I smell a backfire to the bulking strategy.
    No, I didn't say he would be effective. All I am saying is unlike Canelo's past seven or eight opponents; Bud is coming to hit, fight and win by way of knockout if possible.

    No, he is not coming to lay down like Canelo's previous opponents had who gone into survival mode; Just so they could say they went the distance. However, only time will reveal what both men are made up of and who knows?

    Perhaps it's all a pipe dream on my part into believing that Crawford can still pull this off by winning this fight despite the size differential. Roy Jones bulked up 20 pounds of muscle and defeated John "The Quiet Man" Ruiz.

    Moreover, Jones spotted him more than 30 lbs on the day of the weigh in too. I can say that Canelo has never been hit by a man like Crawford before who can set up traps and land punches from different angles.

    Likewise, I will say that the uppercut will play a very huge factor in Terence winning this fight also.

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    Originally posted by champion4ever

    However, one can reasonably deduce that he is coming to fight and looking for a knockout though. One doesn't bulk themselves up like that to run. They bulk themselves up like that to hit.

    If Bud is the stronger of the two on fight night; Then he is going to knock Canelo out. The main key to victory for him is to force Canelo to fight off the back foot by walking him down.

    That is how both Mayweather and Bivol fought and defeated him and Golovkin as well. However, we all knew that GGG should have won that fight as well as both fights but was done dirty by the judges.
    I've never seen Canelo even seriously hurt, let alone down, and he's fought naturally bigger men than Crawford. Are you sure that a suddenly bulked-up WW who's not used to being bulked-up will be effective? I'm not. AND he's nearly 38. I smell a backfire to the bulking strategy.

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
    his arms are too bulky

    arms starting to resemble a hypertrophy weight lifter rather than lean and mean as it should be for boxing
    And the lactic acid will build up in them from throwing punches and Canelo hitting them.

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  • OffTheBack
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    You Have To Remember Floyd Fought An Inexperience Canelo And At A Catchweight. TBud Is Fighting Canelo At Canelo's Weight Class Of 168. This Alone Shuts Down Floyd's Victory Over Canelo.

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