Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Artur Beterbiev-Dmitry Bivol concludes stretch of undisputed championship fights

[JeBron Lamez]

Does that mean they were undisputed 60% of the time ALL the time?

Box Panther.

[famicommander]

Thank you for your comment! Given that there are people on both sides of the debate, each with understandable points, I presented both sides of the argument and included asterisks. I even put the naysayers' rationale first so that it didn't get buried:

"For some, it is reasonable to look at that designation as being akin to a 'champion-in-recess' or a 'champion emeritus,' where a fighter is no longer the primary titleholder."

It isn't a debate at all. Words have meaning. There is a dispute about their status, so they weren't undisputed. It's really as simple as that.

It's like trying to settle a debate about what the sum 2 + 2 is. The answer is 4, there can be no debate.

[Mr. David]

The context in which Teo & Kambosos were never undisputed doesn't mean they were undisputed when they weren't.

The writer's "logic" doesn't matter either, Teo & Kambo should have been undisputed but never were so charge it to the greedy, over-administrated game.

Thank you for your comment! And great username!

Given that there are people on both sides of the debate, each with understandable points, I presented both sides of the argument and included asterisks. I even put the naysayers' rationale first so that it didn't get buried:

"For some, it is reasonable to look at that designation as being akin to a 'champion-in-recess' or a 'champion emeritus,' where a fighter is no longer the primary titleholder."

[Mr. David]

What a joke that you listed Lopez and Kambosos with their ****** WBC Franchise belt. They weren't undisputed. The WBA, WBO, and IBF all recognized Haney as the WBC champion and the Franchise title as a fake ceremonial belt.

Thank you for your comment! Given that there are people on both sides of the debate, each with understandable points, I presented both sides of the argument and included asterisks. I even put the naysayers' rationale first so that it didn't get buried:

"For some, it is reasonable to look at that designation as being akin to a 'champion-in-recess' or a 'champion emeritus,' where a fighter is no longer the primary titleholder."

[zod66]

1 fight draw, 2 fight draw 3 fight draw RIP Saudi money

[Left Hook Louie]

The context in which Teo & Kambosos were never undisputed doesn't mean they were undisputed when they weren't.

Does that mean they were undisputed 60% of the time ALL the time?

[cace]

yeah i agree with most of you all
either bivol decision or beter by ko

cant see anyway that bivol gets the ko but can perhaps see beter by decision
i dunno just cant wait for the fight

[BrankoB]

He most definitely can. There are two versions of Bivol, the one who enjoys dismantling you round by round and then the mean Bivol. The mean bivol shows his face when his opponents press too hard, just becuase his default isn’t the mean one doesn’t mean it’s not there. He’s a smart af fighter and keeps his emotions mostly in check. If he smells blood in the water he will go for the knockout because the power across him needs just one shot to change a fight.

Way too risky to go after Beterbiev and open himself up for a counter. Bivol will stay disciplined for 12 rounds and will not go for the kill under any circumstances.

[gluvsup]

IMO 60-40 for nuclear Artur. Some big risks (age, cuts, knee). But the athleticism and IQ of Bivol aren't necessarily constants the whole fight long. The more he's hit, the more this great matchup becomes the familiar mushroom cloud.

[JeBron Lamez]

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Context matters in everything. Even this writer gave context to Teofimo and Kamboso becoming undisputed.

The context in which Teo & Kambosos were never undisputed doesn't mean they were undisputed when they weren't.

The writer's "logic" doesn't matter either, Teo & Kambo should have been undisputed but never were so charge it to the greedy, over-administrated game.