Comments Thread For: Ryan Garcia labels Shakur Stevenson 'a bum'

[A.B Counterhooks]

Shakur fought better comp than Ryan? Tank is at least 10 levels above anybody Shakur has fought other than DLS. With that being said, Shakur ran from his best competition the entire fight.

Fair enough, you may be right on that one, however, Tank did stopped Ryan. Maybe what I really tried to say is Shakur has better wins with Valdez and Herrig being his bests imo. Plus a multi div world champ unlike Garcia who could have been in the discussion with the Haney win but we already know how that went. Cryan clearly is in no position to call any undefeated world champion a bum.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

I see a big flaw with Shakur and am very surprised no one has corrected that flaw being surrounded by many great coaches and fighters.

I can see your point of view, but us fight fans sometimes forget that the fighters we support or hate are humans and not robots. They have off nights, fight sick and no matter how good they may be none is perfect and have flaws that can be exposed.

Vernon Forrest was an excellent underated boxer who lost twice against a sloppy Mayorga. The point I'm trying to make is that all boxers have flaws...

For the record, I do understand your frustration with Shakur's lack of offensive passion and I'm hoping he steps it up a bit for the betterment of potential near future fights..

[Oregonian]

More of a weight Bully in his youth like many do.

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Oscar fought from 130 all the way to 160. At 130, he was coming off a gold medal at the 1992 Olympics so he was in his early 20’s. Would you call him a weight bully?
Crawford started his career at 135 and has just become a four weight champion with possibly fighting at 168. Would you call him a weight bully?

[boxingitis]

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Oscar fought from 130 all the way to 160. At 130, he was coming off a gold medal at the 1992 Olympics so he was in his early 20’s. Would you call him a weight bully?
Crawford started his career at 135 and has just become a four weight champion with possibly fighting at 168. Would you call him a weight bully?

When fighters are young they use the ability to loose weight easier to have an advantage during the fight. You can see the rehydration advantage in weight during fight night. If a fighter is able to gain more weight than their opponent isn't that an advantage? If they weight the same fight night, then their is no advantage on any fighter, but they took that out many years ago.

[BlackRobb]

got his hands on Canelo stash of peds more like it

Maybe both.

[Oregonian]

When fighters are young they use the ability to loose weight easier to have an advantage during the fight. You can see the rehydration advantage in weight during fight night. If a fighter is able to gain more weight than their opponent isn't that an advantage? If they weight the same fight night, then their is no advantage on any fighter, but they took that out many years ago.

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What you are saying about making weight is true. I get that but if Shakur is weight bully then so was Oscar, Floyd, Bud and many more.

What you are asking or saying is that Shakur should just go straight to 147 because that’s where he’ll probably end up anyway. All the guys I mentioned ended up at much higher weight classes. The great SRL should have just gone straight to 175 instead of bullying smaller guys.

[boxingitis]

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What you are saying about making weight is true. I get that but if Shakur is weight bully then so was Oscar, Floyd, Bud and many more.

What you are asking or saying is that Shakur should just go straight to 147 because that’s where he’ll probably end up anyway. All the guys I mentioned ended up at much higher weight classes. The great SRL should have just gone straight to 175 instead of bullying smaller guys.

Im just saying his weight bully days are over.

[Poopdick]

I respectfully disagree. It is a human emotion, not a condition. Reasoning is what differentiates us from most animals. Most animals react without reasoning, we as fellow humans have the capacity to think before reacting in a negative manner. Racism/Hate is taught or learned. Toddlers/Children do not hate other kids that are of different color or creed. If a child is raised in a healthy loving household and is taught to value and respect all, the chances are pretty high that said person will treat others as he/she was treated.

One can get angry for being hurt or disrespected and can react with violence or vulgarity, but racist tirades aren't the result of an angry reaction in my opinion. Having said that, I understand that we are all entitled to our own opinions so we can respectively agree to disagree...

all that stuff reads well. but we humans are driven by greed and power. and are obsessed with popularity contests. but yeah I have no problem with others' opinions