Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn considers Devin Haney's next fight crucial and doesn't believe Terence Crawford will box again

[Slip jab]

What would make sense is Devin take a couple comeback fights versus some cans, build up some confidence then a big fight.. but he’s being a diva acting like he just didn’t get slapped around. That’s the problem though is boxers thinking they’re bigger than they are. Get real you p****

[super-x]

For someone who isn't a draw, Bud sure has an overinflated self worth but somehow he's been able to find a nice balance btw being a great fighter and getting paid well for it. I read he made some crazy figure like 10M for Avanesyan. If that is the case, I don't see how Canelo fight will even come off esp with Canelo asking for 9 figures and u know Crawford will be asking for 50-60M at least. Unless Turki already have guarantees for both, it will be a complicated negotiation as Spence noted in their negotiations.

Yep. Bud making $25mil vs Spence, and if thats correct $10mil vs Madrimov, then him asking maybe minimum $40mil for a Canelo doesnt seem unrealistic from his standpoint... cant see anyone paying him that much though esp after the madrimov performance which made the whole Crawford Canelo hype lose quite abit of steam. I think he will retire. As for spence, i think hes lost all desire and hunger, having being such a dominant force since he came on to the scene with no one really coming close to beating him, to completely getting battered is alot to come back from? Does he want it anymore? $25mil is a very nice retirement cheque. Personally i dont think he will and maybe its best for him not to if hes not got the hunger to do so either.

[Hands of Stone]

Yeah. To put things into perspective, spence vs Porter in there unification bout were guaranteed a $2mil purse each. Whilst a washed Khan made $5mil as a mere opponent of Crawford when they fought. With Crawford taking home $5.5mil. Against Brook, Crawford made $3mil. When i said Bob was seriously over paying Crawford, i meant he was SERIOUSLY overpaying Crawford. This was the main reason why when the top w.w oppositions were offered, Bud was calling it low balling as he was getting paid double and some for fighting c grade opposition as is. Didnt make financial sense at all to entertain such fights outside of top rank, but to be getting paid that kinda money and at the end to take a shyt on Arum when they went there seprate ways was a b.s move on Buds behalf though i must say.

For someone who isn't a draw, Bud sure has an overinflated self worth but somehow he's been able to find a nice balance btw being a great fighter and getting paid well for it. I read he made some crazy figure like 10M for Avanesyan. If that is the case, I don't see how Canelo fight will even come off esp with Canelo asking for 9 figures and u know Crawford will be asking for 50-60M at least. Unless Turki already have guarantees for both, it will be a complicated negotiation as Spence noted in their negotiations.

[Boricua181]

Didn't Haney file a civil law suit or is threatening to file a law suit against Garcia for financial losses???

Haney did make a statement on social medial that he was going to file a law suit, but nothing was said after that.
So who knows if he actually did file a lawsuit against Garcia or not, maybe he was getting a lot of backlash about it being a punks move, and he left it alone.
That said Haney did appear to be hurt in that fight to the point that it may have left him with lingering effects to the rest of his life.
If that's the case then he's well within his legal rights to file a lawsuit, because he's already going to suffer financial because of the stigma left from his fight with Garcia.
Any lingering effects from their fight would diminish his skill sets in the ring against any future opponent.
Filing a lawsuit against a PED cheat, who caused you some permanent harm, would also send a message to all would be cheats that they could also be sued in court.
In other words your not just going to be find, and suspended by the states boxing commission, but your going to be sued in civil court.
If the damage to the fighter is permanent at some point may it may wind up in criminal court, because of the illegal use of a banned substance to raise their level of power, and stamina.

[super-x]

I always wondered why he resigned with Arum even after openly saying Arum couldn't get him good fights so this actually made a lot of sense.

Yeah. To put things into perspective, spence vs Porter in there unification bout were guaranteed a $2mil purse each. Whilst a washed Khan made $5mil as a mere opponent of Crawford when they fought. With Crawford taking home $5.5mil. Against Brook, Crawford made $3mil. When i said Bob was seriously over paying Crawford, i meant he was SERIOUSLY overpaying Crawford. This was the main reason why when the top w.w oppositions were offered, Bud was calling it low balling as he was getting paid double and some for fighting c grade opposition as is. Didnt make financial sense at all to entertain such fights outside of top rank, but to be getting paid that kinda money and at the end to take a shyt on Arum when they went there seprate ways was a b.s move on Buds behalf though i must say.

[champion4ever]

I remember TC wanting Canelo after he beat Spence, way before Fundora was ever in the picture, the talk was Tim before Fundora but it was Canelo all along.

I do recall him making a potential hypothetical catchweight matchup with Canelo at a 158 lbs. However, he wasn’t being serious or realistic.

This was mind you; Following the Errol Spence, Jr fight back in July 2023. While he was still waiting on that immediate rematch that never took place last December.

However, since that time. It’s possible that he could have mentioned Canelo’s name. However, I just so happened to not be one of those who’ve heard him mentioned him.

[champion4ever]

I remember TC wanting Canelo after he beat Spence, way before Fundora was ever in the picture, the talk was Tim before Fundora but it was Canelo all along.

I do recall him making a potential hypothetical catchweight matchup with Canelo at a 158 lbs. However, he wasn’t being serious or realistic.

This was mind you; Following the Errol Spence, Jr fight in July 2023. While he was still waiting on that immediate rematch that never took place last December.

However, since that time. It’s possible that he could have mentioned Canelo’s name. However, I just so happened to not be one of those who’ve heard him mentioned him.

[champion4ever]

Didn't Haney file a civil law suit or is threatening to file a law suit against Garcia for financial losses???

Yes, that’s right. If my memory serves me correctly; I believe the two sides are currently in negotiations.

That is unless of course, both sides have reached a settlement or a confidential agreement already .

[Corelone]

Unfortunately it is a sad truth that too many fighters who made millions wind up broke, broken, and destitute.
After laboring so hard, and for so long to make it in the unforgiving sport of boxing, they lose it all due to their exorbitant new found lifestyle.
Having shed so much of their blood, sweat, and tears along the way doesn't seem to have amounted to much in the end.
For those who gave so much of their youth, health, and spirit, and that's just so unfair, if not totaling heart wrenching.
They deserved better, but didn't know how to protect themselves, or their earnings from others.
They learned all of the boxing skills that they would need in the ring, but never learned the financial skills of accounting, and investing.
That they would need after their career in order to live a decent life out side of the ring. Where there are just as many difficult challenges, as there were in the ring.

Some just give it away. Getting drunk and wrecking Lambos. There are success stories too. Big George; Little Red, the original Golden boy Art Aragon. He became a bail bondsman, his motto. I'll get you out if it takes ten years. A lot of these guys would have ended the way they started without boxing.

[Boricua181]

If Crawford were to retire, I don't know what to make of his resume. I know he's undisputed a couple of times and I know he passes the eye ball test and many view him as an all time great (not me) but to only have one marquee name, Spence, on your resume, even with the demolition job he did on him is just not enough. He missed a lot of great fights at 147 'cos supposedly nobody wanted to fight him but 154 guys are itching to get at him. There are a lot of great fights at 154 to help his resume but whether he wants those tough fights is a different story. Even Madrimov that was suppose to be a soft touch ended up being a difficult fight.

Madrimov isn't a soft touch for anyone!