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  • hugh grant
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    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    pac beat floyd and landed the much cleaner punches throughout the fight, floyd beat oscar. people who think oscar did better dont actually know how to score boxing or they score it based on things that dont count/arent real. oscar flailed and threw more punches, looked like he was doing more, etc etc...but he didnt have the clean punches. in the pac fight floyd didnt have the clean punches and pac did, which is really what boxing is about, well in theory, in reality its about who is popular and political stuff but punch for punch it was pac landing hard impactful punches and floyd missing and grazing. it was slow and boring so floyd wins lol. slow and boring with pac landing hard clean punches and floyd not...
    Yes, I agree. Except I think dlh best Floyd too. But pac beating floyd with bad shoulder is what impressed me more

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  • daggum
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    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

    According to the judges. But judges are different. THe same judges that scored the DLH and FLoyd fight might have scored Pac beating Floyd. You cant say DLH did better. Thats for Floyd to say and i believe FLoyd said Pac was toughest. Some thought DLH beat Floyd. Some think Pac beat Floyd.
    Some boxing fans might think Pac did better than DLH did, and vice versa.
    pac beat floyd and landed the much cleaner punches throughout the fight, floyd beat oscar. people who think oscar did better dont actually know how to score boxing or they score it based on things that dont count/arent real. oscar flailed and threw more punches, looked like he was doing more, etc etc...but he didnt have the clean punches. in the pac fight floyd didnt have the clean punches and pac did, which is really what boxing is about, well in theory, in reality its about who is popular and political stuff but punch for punch it was pac landing hard impactful punches and floyd missing and grazing. it was slow and boring so floyd wins lol. slow and boring with pac landing hard clean punches and floyd not...
    Last edited by daggum; 08-19-2024, 11:12 AM.

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  • hugh grant
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    Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
    Oscar took 4 rounds against a prime $ May

    manny did 3 rounds against TBE

    Oscar did better than manny
    According to the judges. But judges are different. THe same judges that scored the DLH and FLoyd fight might have scored Pac beating Floyd. You cant say DLH did better. Thats for Floyd to say and i believe FLoyd said Pac was toughest. Some thought DLH beat Floyd. Some think Pac beat Floyd.
    Some boxing fans might think Pac did better than DLH did, and vice versa.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 08-19-2024, 10:49 AM.

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
    most important who you beat and how you beat them

    I don’t list losses unless fighter overperformed in that fight he lost

    at this rate TBud will retire undefeated and he’s nowhere near as good
    Kind of a sad state of affairs for the sport, when one of the very best P4P boxers of this era hasn’t fought any truly great fighters to test him. Bud, through no fault of his own, might retire undefeated, and his greatness will always be challenged. SRL had Benitez, Hearns, Hagler and Duran. You just can’t compete with that resume.

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  • SouthpawRight
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    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

    And that’s all cool. I don’t know where this notion that a fighter is supposed to be utterly flawless to be considered an ATG came from. The whole undefeated thing, which, ironically Floyd perpetuated, is completely overrated. 99.99% of the greats took a loss, or losses. They all gave up rounds. Duran was a greater fighter than Mayweather, yet he took several losses in his prime. Losing rounds, or “almost losing” fights, doesn’t diminish Floyd’s stature. Dude was truly amazing. And, for what it’s worth, I think SRL would’ve taken that “oh.”
    most important who you beat and how you beat them

    I don’t list losses unless fighter overperformed in that fight he lost

    at this rate TBud will retire undefeated and he’s nowhere near as good
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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
    Best since Sugar Leonard and Roy Jonez

    Zab took rounds 1, 2, 4, and 12
    Oscar took rounds 2, 4, 6, and 12

    Floyd giving away the 12th round against Oscar was unwise
    And that’s all cool. I don’t know where this notion that a fighter is supposed to be utterly flawless to be considered an ATG came from. The whole undefeated thing, which, ironically Floyd perpetuated, is completely overrated. 99.99% of the greats took a loss, or losses. They all gave up rounds. Duran was a greater fighter than Mayweather, yet he took several losses in his prime. Losing rounds, or “almost losing” fights, doesn’t diminish Floyd’s stature. Dude was truly amazing. And, for what it’s worth, I think SRL would’ve taken that “oh.”

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  • hugh grant
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    Originally posted by djtmal View Post
    Oscar gets far more respect than Floyd when I comes to fighting the best at their best.

    Floyd Sr. thought Oscar beat Floyd Jr
    Floyd was tricky, but Oscar thought pac was greater.

    BEST OVERALL

    MANNY PACQUIAO: I would have to say Pacquiao. I think his determination, his conditioning, his skill, his power, speed, footwork … he’s one of the fighters I most appreciated. Mayweather-Pacquiao would have been a lot different (if they’d fought) in their primes. Pacquiao would have beat (Mayweather) easy, absolutely.


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  • SouthpawRight
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    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
    Some backhanded compliments, but it’s quite clear that Oscar begrudgingly believes Floyd was a great fighter. There’s no denying this. I watched a lot of Mayweather’s biggest fights, and it was something to behold. The best ever? I don’t think so. But one of the all time greats, for sure.
    Best since Sugar Leonard and Roy Jonez

    Zab took rounds 1, 2, 4, and 12
    Oscar took rounds 2, 4, 6, and 12

    Floyd giving away the 12th round against Oscar was unwise

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    Some backhanded compliments, but it’s quite clear that Oscar begrudgingly believes Floyd was a great fighter. There’s no denying this. I watched a lot of Mayweather’s biggest fights, and it was something to behold. The best ever? I don’t think so. But one of the all time greats, for sure.
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  • Roadblock
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    Originally posted by elfag View Post
    "“I love the fact that he’s a hard-hitter and he has a chin. People discredit him for not having a chin."



    lol DLH is all over the place. i cant tell if he is trying to stir up **** or just scatter brained from too much drugs. none of that makes sense. everyone knows floyd is not a hard hitter. then the next part also makes no sense, nobody ever anywhere said floyd had a bad chin, even his long term haters havent said that.


    he also claimed he would KO mayweather if he was only a year younger. thats funny he never KO'd tito, mosley, quartey, old comacho, old whitaker or journeyman Javier Castillejo but says he would KO prime mayweather when he was 33, sure dude whatever

    he is also only 4 years older than mayweather but makes it sound like they were 10 years apart.
    This part I think you are wrong, Floyd does hit hard otherwise they all would just run through him, the fact that everybody who fought him said he hits harder than what appears verify that, up until he was breaking hands he had as high a KO percentage as punchers Manny and JMM etc somewhere around 65% I think it was, as he went up fighting bigger guys his great boxing came into it more and more but he would always crack them with enough power to keep them from over running him, I think the power was there he just wound it back because of his hands but he could always load up on one or two to say come in at your own expense.

    Agree with the rest of your comment.
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