Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Tank-Lomachenko talks breaking down, Mexico vs. Puerto Rico and Canelo-Berlanga

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[Poopdick]

boxing fans are morons lol.

[TonyRespectful]

Benavidez at 8 and Canelo at 9 pound for pound !? And we're supposed to believe stale bread is not biased ? Hahahahahaha

[boxingitis]

The UFC card sucks even more than Canelo vs Berlanga. What a trash of events.

[Smash]

bread doesnt butter canelo up, he tells it like it is, he should be fighting benny but he wants 150 mil - 200 mil to do it, so why if canelo fans say benny is so crap is their hero demanding so much cash to fight him hhhmm doesnt make much sense really

[M111]

Realistically Ukraine being at war with Russia has a lot more to do with him turning down the tank fight than any other reason. Everyone he’s known his entire life, his family, his friends are all at risk and if DT wins the forthcoming election even more so as he’s said he’ll cut aid to Ukraine. Given that political backdrop I think most people would chose to be with their family rather than take another fight. He’s already rich. Usyk is in London negotiating aid for Ukraine.

[Greenfield02]

I don't know who wins between Canelo and Benavides, it's an excellent match up, and a 50/50. I do believe Canelo has slipped a bit lately, that said, you know Bread is biased for the simple fact that regardless of who you think might win, the fact of the matter is that it hasn't happened and last time I checked, Canelo has accomplished way more than Benavides and still is the best SMW until someone beats him so for that simple fact should be ranked higher. Do I think Canelo is ducking David? Absolutely! But that doesn't mean you can say with certainty that David would win. Regardless of the politics, you can't say who's best until they fight.


Another reason you know Bread is biased, he doesn't use the same logic when it comes to Crawford ducking Boots, does it mean that Boots should be ranked higher than Crawford? Or the fact that Tank hasn't fought Stevenson or Zepeda, or hasn't given Cruz a rematch. Does that mean those fighters should be ranked higher than Tank? Or let me switch it up, Stevenson is not eager to fight Tank or Zepeda, does that mean those fighters are better? The answer is we just don't know until they fight. P4P best should be judged on what have you accomplished, not because you show a few flashy moves against inferior competition. I can make the argument that guy's life Canelo, Usyk, Inoue, even a guy like Bam should be ranked higher than Crawford, Tank, Stevenson, Why? You ask, for the simple fact they have accomplished more and have fought better competition. People bring up Crawford undisputed run at 140, and should be respected, but do did he exactly beat? Those were paper titles, 3 of those guys he beat to become undisputed lost by K.O right after and eventually retired or were not relevant, as a matter of fact, tell me the last time the considered #1 P4P had such a lousy resume with really only one signature win? And that win didn't come until that guy had an accident and coming off eye surgery, not to mention he had outgrown the weight.

So yes Bread is very biased....

[TonyRespectful]

I don't know who wins between Canelo and Benavides, it's an excellent match up, and a 50/50. I do believe Canelo has slipped a bit lately, that said, you know Bread is biased for the simple fact that regardless of who you think might win, the fact of the matter is that it hasn't happened and last time I checked, Canelo has accomplished way more than Benavides and still is the best SMW until someone beats him so for that simple fact should be ranked higher. Do I think Canelo is ducking David? Absolutely! But that doesn't mean you can say with certainty that David would win. Regardless of the politics, you can't say who's best until they fight.


Another reason you know Bread is biased, he doesn't use the same logic when it comes to Crawford ducking Boots, does it mean that Boots should be ranked higher than Crawford? Or the fact that Tank hasn't fought Stevenson or Zepeda, or hasn't given Cruz a rematch. Does that mean those fighters should be ranked higher than Tank? Or let me switch it up, Stevenson is not eager to fight Tank or Zepeda, does that mean those fighters are better? The answer is we just don't know until they fight. P4P best should be judged on what have you accomplished, not because you show a few flashy moves against inferior competition. I can make the argument that guy's life Canelo, Usyk, Inoue, even a guy like Bam should be ranked higher than Crawford, Tank, Stevenson, Why? You ask, for the simple fact they have accomplished more and have fought better competition. People bring up Crawford undisputed run at 140, and should be respected, but do did he exactly beat? Those were paper titles, 3 of those guys he beat to become undisputed lost by K.O right after and eventually retired or were not relevant, as a matter of fact, tell me the last time the considered #1 P4P had such a lousy resume with really only one signature win? And that win didn't come until that guy had an accident and coming off eye surgery, not to mention he had outgrown the weight.

So yes Bread is very biased....

Benavidez and Canelo do have a common opponent. And it's obvious it doesn't favor David. Sure triangle theories don't mean a lot but it is an indicator. But bread wants us to think his knowledge is so special that his eye test means more than the fighters actually fighting ! Foh

[rrayvez]

Benavidez and Canelo do have a common opponent. And it's obvious it doesn't favor David. Sure triangle theories don't mean a lot but it is an indicator. But bread wants us to think his knowledge is so special that his eye test means more than the fighters actually fighting ! Foh

A common opponent is no indicator. Munguia outperformed canelo against Ryder. Did that matter? Canelo couldn’t stop Cotto , but little pac did. Canelo couldn’t stop Chavez jr but fonfara did. Canelo couldn’t stop Daniel Jacobs but pirog did. You guys also fail to remember that canelo demanded a smaller ring for plant so had easier access to walk him down. Benavidez dished out a lot of punishment against plant so that logic is weird. Clearly canelo sees something you don’t because if he felt confident that he could beat Benavidez, he’d be fighting him instead of Berlanga.

[Smash]

Realistically Ukraine being at war with Russia has a lot more to do with him turning down the tank fight than any other reason. Everyone he’s known his entire life, his family, his friends are all at risk and if DT wins the forthcoming election even more so as he’s said he’ll cut aid to Ukraine. Given that political backdrop I think most people would chose to be with their family rather than take another fight. He’s already rich. Usyk is in London negotiating aid for Ukraine.

stop with that excuse please

hes fine with kambo, not with tank & now hes back again in a few months time available to fight and the tank fight is off

when a fighter ducks its amazing the excuses some fans latch on to for some odd reasons, its always the same no matter who the fighter is, they always appear