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  • #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

    No one got a standing 8 count. Idek there is such a thing as a standing 8 count in pro boxing anymore under any commission. Fury was deemed a downed opp cuz if not for the ropes he would have went down.

    I think this was a big ass fight that wouldn't have been stopped regardless of if it had been Usyk hurt as bad as Fury was. This is actually pretty standard for fights to be stopped more aggressively at the lower end & less aggressively at the higher end.

    That said if this wasn't a Riyadh Season ~$200M undisputed heavyweight ppv event between the top 2 & only belt holders in the division I think it probably does get stopped if it had been Fury or Usyk 9x outta 10.
    Perhaps my wording was incorrect. When I meant standing 8 count, I didn't mean the ref just paused the action to deliver a count. I was referring to the ropes holding him up which warrants a count as though he had been knocked down. I think the ref did a great job and I've seen him often before. It's great he got a chance to do a high profile fight, but don't like to hear people think he didn't do a good job. I wouldn't mind seeing him called back in another big profile event.
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    • #12
      fury has very good powers of recovery, there would have been cries of u robbed me of victory etc, ref made the right call and i think usyk would have got the benefit as well on such a big night in saudi

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      • #13
        The ref could have intervened a bit earlier to give mandatory 8 count. Fury had to take a few extra hits.

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        • #14
          Hearn’s right, it shouldn’t have been a stopped. Fury has shown a remarkable
          ability to recover when hurt and he should have been allowed to continue. Only problem I had is that a knockdown counts when the ropes hold you up after a punch and there were multiple times when a knockdown should have been ruled

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          • #15
            i was wondering if we would have another rope-a-dope heavyweight championship fight again

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            • #16
              Originally posted by TysonFuryTBE View Post
              Of course the ref made the right call, who stops an undisputed fight just cause a fighter is wobbled a little bit.

              Fury haters really are embarrassing themselves last few days
              The so-called experts are repeatedly insisting that the ref made the correct call to intervene because its the hard and fast rule that a fighter falling into the ropes must be charged a knockdown. This may be the rule on paper, but its hardly the hard and fast rule in practice (otherwise he should have deducted 3 points from Fury that round). The situation and fight action is critical context. While referee Nelson wasn't technically wrong in awarding a KD for Usyk's savaging of Fury, his intervention absolutely saved Fury from a probable KO. Usyk was in the middle of his attack and about to land the KO shot when Nelson jumped in to save Fury. The point of scoring the ropes knockdown is to give credit to the attacking fighter, not to save the hurt fighter. If you're going to jump in and disrupt the attack, then you do so to end the damn fight. There is no standing 8 count (protection count) in professional boxing anymore. On the other hand, had Fury somehow recovered and fought back after falling into the ropes, Nelson should have stopped the action and awarded the KD to Usyk. That's how its supposed to go, yet pundit after pundit rails on about how Nelson got it just right. Ridiculous. Fury got saved.
              Last edited by TheOneAboveAll; 05-21-2024, 10:34 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ELPacman View Post

                Perhaps my wording was incorrect. When I meant standing 8 count, I didn't mean the ref just paused the action to deliver a count. I was referring to the ropes holding him up which warrants a count as though he had been knocked down. I think the ref did a great job and I've seen him often before. It's great he got a chance to do a high profile fight, but don't like to hear people think he didn't do a good job. I wouldn't mind seeing him called back in another big profile event.
                Agree. I've seen him get criticized for not calling a KD earlier in the sequence, but everything was going so fast & Fury was all over that fooking ring so idk that anyone coulda stopped the action, or even for sure noticed the ring prevented a literal KD earlier, & called a KD sooner than he did. Its easier to see from your couch & via replay than in the ring I'd imagine so its technically a mistake but a very forgivable & reasonable mistake in the heat of the moment.

                The long count criticism hes got is ridiculous. Literally no ones 10 count is 10 seconds. Anyone not a casual fan knows this or should know it.

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                • #18
                  Usyk was robbed of KO
                  If Usyk would of been blasted like that Ref would of stopped it and declared a KO. That ref is a scumbag a crooked paid one at that. Giving 8 counts for 20 seconds... scum.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by TysonFuryTBE View Post
                    Of course the ref made the right call, who stops an undisputed fight just cause a fighter is wobbled a little bit.

                    Fury haters really are embarrassing themselves last few days
                    Says the guy with the TysonFury"TheBestEver" moniker and "MAY 18TH - IMMORTALITY AWAITS TYSON FURY
                    UNDISPUTED/KING OF ALL KINGS​" footing on all his posts.
                    It's amazing how oblivious and hypocritical people can be.

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                    • #20
                      the call was good, but just imagine the uproar if he stopped it
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