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  • mattconan
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    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

    The Lopez fight was a clear loss. Lomachenko lost the first 6 rounds, arguably round 7, and round 12.
    I thought he won round 2. But even that. gives him a clear 7-5 loss. Lopez won 1, 3-7, and 12 imo.

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  • brettWall
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    Originally posted by BoxingUpdates View Post
    How Much Does Vasiliy Lomachenko Really Have Left?

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    Such question can also be answered by another question:

    Will Kambosos beat Lomachenko in their forthcoming fight?

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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    Originally posted by Haka View Post

    The haters don't know how fast to claim the first 6 rounds but never never explain what happened ? It was a standoff, both weren't exactly doing anything.
    Was his shoulder. He had surgery the next day, FFS. You can actually see it a little. He's got that swivel jab he likes to throw over the top that he uses to start his offense. He threw it once in the last seconds of the first round (and it was virtually the only landed punch that round, aside from Teo's 1-1-2 that might have connected a little about midway), and then never threw it again. He uses it a lot, because he can come over the top of the jab of taller opponents and it generates more power for him, but it's a compromised position for the shoulder. But Lopez was way more active in the first 7 rounds. I remember watching it live and getting past round 7 and thinking that Loma had screwed himself and would need a knockdown to win.

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  • Ry92
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    Time to build it up Loma if win should get Shakur no ? Less a tank fight is there only other reason. Retirement fight vs Andy Cruz to build up a 2025 Stevenson vs Cruz fight

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  • mattconan
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    Originally posted by Feroz View Post

    If he believes he can take on Shakur Stevenson after besting Kambosos in good fashion, that could be interesting wouldn't you say?
    If he looks good against Kambosos then the Shakur fight makes sense. A chance for Loma to get a signature win and a big fight for Shakur. Gotta favor Shakur pretty heavily at this point though.

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  • Haka
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    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

    The Lopez fight was a clear loss. Lomachenko lost the first 6 rounds, arguably round 7, and round 12.
    The haters don't know how fast to claim the first 6 rounds but never never explain what happened ? It was a standoff, both weren't exactly doing anything.

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  • famicommander
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    Originally posted by Kiowhatta View Post
    Loma might be 36, fighting one or two weight classes above his natural fighting weight, however, all his three losses have come controversially.

    The Lopez fight was closer to a draw, as was his subsequent ‘loss’ to Haney.

    His partly to blame as prior to the Lopez fight he possessed an indomitable will not to just beat his opponents, but break them down from the first bell.

    After that, he seemed to switch to the boxer’s long game strategy: willing to give away early rounds in order to figure them out then finally turn it on in the late rounds.

    problem with that is, as has already been mentioned, is he has never been a KO fighter - his style has always been that of a defensive wizard, with sublime footwork, using those advantages to overwhelm opponents with fast, dynamic, scoring combinations, counterpunching and making them miss.

    Even when he fought at his debut weight against the likes of Salido and others he could pour it on in an almost arrogant disregard of his opponents abilities.

    The question of age is always one out of context. 30 + years ago 30 was considered what 40 is now.

    sports science has revealed that the male athlete can still achieve prime and peak fitness up until age 33-34, before the body inevitably starts a slow decline that accelerates at about 40.

    However, as fans will know, genetics, lifestyle, damage from previous fights, motivation, training methods and mental toughness all play their part.

    For every George Foreman and B-Hop there are 100 counter examples.

    As has been said, we will surely get a sense of Loma‘s ability and what he may have left.

    I suspect he feels he has to avenge those losses and attempt to go out on satisfactory terms: whether that be undisputed @ lightweight or capturing another title, perhaps a rematch with Lopez or Haney, though he’s unlikely to move beyond 135.
    The Lopez fight was a clear loss. Lomachenko lost the first 6 rounds, arguably round 7, and round 12.

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  • Kiowhatta
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    Loma might be 36, fighting one or two weight classes above his natural fighting weight, however, all his three losses have come controversially.

    The Lopez fight was closer to a draw, as was his subsequent ‘loss’ to Haney.

    His partly to blame as prior to the Lopez fight he possessed an indomitable will not to just beat his opponents, but break them down from the first bell.

    After that, he seemed to switch to the boxer’s long game strategy: willing to give away early rounds in order to figure them out then finally turn it on in the late rounds.

    problem with that is, as has already been mentioned, is he has never been a KO fighter - his style has always been that of a defensive wizard, with sublime footwork, using those advantages to overwhelm opponents with fast, dynamic, scoring combinations, counterpunching and making them miss.

    Even when he fought at his debut weight against the likes of Salido and others he could pour it on in an almost arrogant disregard of his opponents abilities.

    The question of age is always one out of context. 30 + years ago 30 was considered what 40 is now.

    sports science has revealed that the male athlete can still achieve prime and peak fitness up until age 33-34, before the body inevitably starts a slow decline that accelerates at about 40.

    However, as fans will know, genetics, lifestyle, damage from previous fights, motivation, training methods and mental toughness all play their part.

    For every George Foreman and B-Hop there are 100 counter examples.

    As has been said, we will surely get a sense of Loma‘s ability and what he may have left.

    I suspect he feels he has to avenge those losses and attempt to go out on satisfactory terms: whether that be undisputed @ lightweight or capturing another title, perhaps a rematch with Lopez or Haney, though he’s unlikely to move beyond 135.

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  • robbyheartbaby
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    Originally posted by buge View Post

    Andrade and Benevidez just fought each other and what did that get them? Andrade got an L and Benevidez got Canelo even more scared of him.
    Actually a very valid point Canelo said for them to fight each other so they did just so he could avoid the best of the division.

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  • robbyheartbaby
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    36 is up there for a lightweight let alone a natural super featherweight fighting above his ideal weight class. Loma should beat Kambosos how he performs is a sign of his decline. His only bad performance for me was Lopez but he’s still going to end up in HOF. How anyone trashes his career is beyond me but trolls gonna troll.
    mattconan mattconan likes this.

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