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  • Isn't Ngannou too told to become a pro boxer at the highest level?

    Even if he beats Joshua, he's turning 38 in September and whatever level he has now will hardly be there for long. Few people are that sharp close to 40.

    38 is ancient in this sport.

    Happy to see the freak of nature built for the art one more time,though. Hoping for a little bit more activity in the fight this time.
    Last edited by Pugilist89; 02-08-2024, 05:39 AM.

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    In terms of skills - sure it is too late for him. Plus, he has to limit/suppress instincts/reactions he developed as an MMA fighter. But maybe it isn't too late to give some big surprise and beat some top boxers which will require him to go with at least two fights per year for the next two or I don't know how long he intends to continue fighting. But this is just "maybe" and even if it happens it will only hint that he could have been a very good or even great boxer.

    To me, he is "in that shape" because his mornings start with some great PEDs for years.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by fifth_root View Post
      In terms of skills - sure it is too late for him. Plus, he has to limit/suppress instincts/reactions he developed as an MMA fighter. But maybe it isn't too late to give some big surprise and beat some top boxers which will require him to go with at least two fights per year for the next two or I don't know how long he intends to continue fighting. But this is just "maybe" and even if it happens it will only hint that he could have been a very good or even great boxer.

      To me, he is "in that shape" because his mornings start with some great PEDs for years.

      i didn't see any MMA habits against Fury and the reason is quite obvious. Nganno brawled in mma and he was a boxer puncher in boxing, so there is no confusion for his body.

      It's when you do two arts that overlap somewhat, that bad habits can crop up.

      It defies medical science if he is clean and still as quick.. but who knows. He's not exactly an average human in anything,

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pugilist89 View Post


        i didn't see any MMA habits against Fury and the reason is quite obvious. Nganno brawled in mma and he was a boxer puncher in boxing, so there is no confusion for his body.

        It's when you do two arts that overlap somewhat, that bad habits can crop up.

        It defies medical science if he is clean and still as quick.. but who knows. He's not exactly an average human in anything,
        You can't see MMA habits, because they are all against the boxing rules. But my point is that he could react very differently in many situations and limiting himself to boxing, he has to learn and/or refine other reactions according to the boxing rules.

        it is not about his speed, but his weight to his size and the way he started looking a few years after his MMA debut up until today.

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        • #5
          I think your odds of becoming a top ten ceiling pro boxer are greatly diminished if you don't start boxing amateur at 18 lol.

          So obviously Ngannou is too old turning pro in his late 30's. BUT you only got one life to live & Ngannou showed in his first pro fight he IS a high level pro boxer. I mean even tho hes 0-1 as a pro idk that anyone else on this planet would drop, not get dropped by & lose by a split decision to the arguable #1 pro boxer at their weight. Sh^t is insane & sounds like a movie plot not real life.
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          • #6
            If AJ wipes him out as he should, then this point is moot. Wilder vs Ngannou will still sell tho because of the puncher vs puncher angle and by then Ng will swim in cash and pusay.

            If a miracle happens and Ng lands a bomb on Josh's dome then the sky is the limit, everyone and his mother will want to fight him for mega money and noone will remember this he old doe thing.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by fifth_root View Post
              You can't see MMA habits, because they are all against the boxing rules.
              Does MMA improve your clinch game?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fifth_root View Post

                You can't see MMA habits, because they are all against the boxing rules..
                there are ways to tell from stance changes whether someone is comfortable striking from the new stance. The most obvious reveal will be loss of balance.

                But then again, Fury never put him under pressure. Joshua isn't likely to do it either. The fact that Fury was confident to keep pressuring Wilder but not Ngannou, tells me that Ngannou punched harder

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MusoMeanderings View Post
                  If AJ wipes him out as he should, then this point is moot. Wilder vs Ngannou will still sell tho because of the puncher vs puncher angle and by then Ng will swim in cash and pusay.

                  If a miracle happens and Ng lands a bomb on Josh's dome then the sky is the limit, everyone and his mother will want to fight him for mega money and noone will remember this he old doe thing.
                  Why would it be a miracle. Joshuas defence is worse than Fury

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MusoMeanderings View Post

                    Does MMA improve your clinch game?
                    It is different, isn't it? You are free to go for takedowns or throws, hold and punch, deliver knees and elbows. This is superior to what boxing teaches you, but for a better clinch work in MMA, you go through boxing, because it is also a part of it.


                    Originally posted by Pugilist89 View Post

                    there are ways to tell from stance changes whether someone is comfortable striking from the new stance. The most obvious reveal will be loss of balance.

                    But then again, Fury never put him under pressure. Joshua isn't likely to do it either. The fact that Fury was confident to keep pressuring Wilder but not Ngannou, tells me that Ngannou punched harder
                    I think he punches harder, yes. Wilder is a tremendous puncher especially for his weight and the amount of muscle he has - it isn't much for a 201 cm. man who weights between 96 and 100 kg.

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