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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    Originally posted by DerekD View Post

    Honestly he knocked Fury down and the ref gave him a 20 count to regain his senses, it should have been a knockout…Go back and watch the video and count yourself how long fury had to regain himself after being knocked down…It should have been a knockout or if not he shouldn’t have had an extra 10 seconds to regroup.
    Everyone knows (after the 1st Wilder fight) that the boxing count is not in seconds dude. I don't like Fury but if Ngannou was going to beat a fresh Joshua - he should be able to stop a hurt and dazed Fury. 20 seconds or 10!

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  • KillaCamNZ
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    What he meant to say was "I like money".

    Case closed.

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  • SN!PER
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    I'd like to see Ngannou humble AJ and Fury.

    He's a true warrior with more hunger than both of them combined.

    If he becomes champion, it's a win for the street kids living in poverty who have big dreams.

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  • pollywog
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    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

    Again (and again, and again) it depends on the contract.

    People do business all over the world everyday. It's been thought of. Whatever it is that you're wondering, it's been thought of.

    Yes, if they retire a rematch will not be enforceable. You can't force anyone to do anything. But you can still be sued.

    I could retire tomorrow. It doesn't mean I'll have zero responsibility for any agreements I've made to date. I can't just say "I didn't have it in me anymore".
    Fûck the contract. No one can make anyone honour any contract if the disgruntled party are willing to accept the consequences of breaking it.

    Fury already bailed on a rematch contract with Klitschko and if Usyk wins and retires to Ukraine you think Bonesaw can get to him as easily as Khashoggi to exact revenge ?

    Why after becoming absolute undisputed would either risk losing their O in a rematch or fight Joshua and give him some shine he hasnt earnt afterwards?

    Fisheyes and Fury and Usyk and Krassyuk have said nothing about the rematch because there probably won't be one.

    AJ is being held out to become Queen of the desert in waiting and will hold court in the kingdom to be pimped out to the softest ass they can line up for him.

    That's probably looking like Dubois. The all conquering world beater of the fat car******* loudmouth American ****wad in his last bout.

    Winner of Parker Zhang will take care of Hrgovic once and for all probably as another curtain raiser to A-Side Joshys main event.

    IMHO...lol

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  • Toffee
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    Originally posted by pollywog View Post

    Do you think Fury or Usyk have anything to fight for after undisputed or that they need to fight AJ to complete their resumés ?

    Where would the lawsuit be heard ?

    ...and if they retire they wont be taking other fights anyway.
    Again (and again, and again) it depends on the contract.

    People do business all over the world everyday. It's been thought of. Whatever it is that you're wondering, it's been thought of.

    Yes, if they retire a rematch will not be enforceable. You can't force anyone to do anything. But you can still be sued.

    I could retire tomorrow. It doesn't mean I'll have zero responsibility for any agreements I've made to date. I can't just say "I didn't have it in me anymore".

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  • pollywog
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    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

    No point telling me what you think Fury or Usyk might do.

    No-one can be forced to fight. But they can be prevented from taking other fights or they can be sued for breaching an agreement.

    ​​​​​Comes down to the contract.
    Do you think Fury or Usyk have anything to fight for after undisputed or that they need to fight AJ to complete their resumés ?

    Where would the lawsuit be heard ?

    ...and if they retire they wont be taking other fights anyway.

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  • Toffee
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    Originally posted by pollywog View Post

    There's no way the sauds can enforce a rematch if Usyk or Fury straight up refuse to fight again and retire with an 'injury' or 'mental illness' and i doubt any court in the UK or Ukraine will enforce Saudi law.

    Joshua can be paper champ for a trash belt and rematch Ngannou or duck whoever he likes to keep it. It wont matter.

    If Usyk wins theres no reason to fight AJ. If Fury wins he's beaten the guy that beat AJ twice and took the titles off him, so no reason to fight AJ.

    No amount of money can buy the Undisputed title and no gaudy trash Saudi belt can make the title stick beyond this one Usyk/Fury fight.

    Turkey, Eddie and fisheyes can suck eggs after Feb 17 for all Usyk and Fury care. After ring of fire all bets are off as to what happens despite what the Turkey wants and can pay for.
    No point telling me what you think Fury or Usyk might do.

    No-one can be forced to fight. But they can be prevented from taking other fights or they can be sued for breaching an agreement.

    ​​​​​Comes down to the contract.

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  • Phase III
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    Expect AJ to return to his deer in headlights form against Ngannou.

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  • Willow The Wisp
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    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

    Of course Usyk can`t do that. he will do what Saudis will tell him to do. they pay him. They are actually his owners.
    They are not owners. They are simply the High Bidders.

    This is an international, free market sport with high cultural and historical meaning all over the world.

    You are thinking, perhaps; of Mixed Martial Arts.

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  • DerekD
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    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

    He hasn't KO'd anyone in boxing yet. He hurt Fury and let him off the hook. Even if by some miracle he beats AJ he still won't be King. He would be a 1-1 fighter. In the long term he would lose and lose again. Boxing skills matter. He will never outbox a decent boxer. He only has that KO power
    Honestly he knocked Fury down and the ref gave him a 20 count to regain his senses, it should have been a knockout…Go back and watch the video and count yourself how long fury had to regain himself after being knocked down…It should have been a knockout or if not he shouldn’t have had an extra 10 seconds to regroup.

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