Comments Thread For: Dubois Trainer Says Controversial Punch on Usyk Was 'Long Ways From the Balls'

[hugh grant]

DDD did hit low. Ddd hit top of protector. USyk is vulnerable to body, no need to aim low. Usy k isn't tall, so no need for punches to be aimed so low. I can imagine haye hitting valuev in balls as valuev 7ft tall

[N/A]

“With all due respect, I’m not here to comment on what happened in the fight, the body language of the fight.

“Legally, I shouldn't comment on the actions of a referee or what I felt.

“I just want to make it really simple. I want to clarify and illuminate any questions. All this convoluted over the years. Simon says put your hands on your hips. You feel the top of two bony structures. Take two fingers until they meet. That line is your hip line. Everyone’s belly button is different, you can’t use the belly button.

“That hip line signifies where we wear our belt. That is our low blow point. So what a low blow is, any time the majority of the glove is below that hit line. On the hip line is legal, it doesn’t stop being illegal until a majority of a glove is above it. That’s why when the fight begins, we identify the hip line. That’s basically it.

“The hip line never moves, the belly button changes, the waistband changes. You should visualise as a ref where that hip line is.”

- Jack Reiss

He is a way better referee than Pabon (who's on the other side of a quality and honest referee). And that clearly indicates Usyk lost, because he was down in pain and no air, so not even a 10 count could've saved him.

[SteveM]

I could literally see Usyk's belly button at times in the fight, not just after the fight ended. That punch was not "**** on the navel" so I don't know why you're asking that. People are blind apparently. My stump is 7 inches away from my belly button and everyone is acting like only a punch to the balls is illegal when that's simply not the case. You can have your navel covered by 2 inches of trunks and still have another 5-6 inches to your balls lol.

Agree. But from the slo mo vid - when the blow landed the navel wasn't visible - his shorts rose up his trunk at that moment.

But over and above that point - I have seen hundreds if not thousands of belt shots over the years. If from now on we are going to say a belt shot is illegal AND ACT ON IT then boxing will see a major change moving forward,

[chicken-]

But a low blow doesn’t mean just the nuts or dvck. Anything below the belly button is considered low. Literally no part of his glove even grazed the skin and Usyks trunks werent even high.

If he truly felt that he didn’t hit Usyk low, he had a full 5 minutes to think about attacking Usyks body for the remainder of the fight. Instead he never landed a good shot there again and quit after being dropped by a damn jab ffs

People refuse to accept this reality because they are either biased, dumb, both, or just used to fighters wearing their trunks too high and refs allowing belt-line work.

[chicken-]

What about on the navel? Like centre of glove is **** on the navel and bottom of glove below navel and top of glove above navel?

I thought that Usyk was wearing his trunks beltline below the navel as seen in th ering after the fight ended. If I'm cynical I can think either he or a member of his team pulled the trunks lower - why?

because slooking at slow mo video - when Dubois's blow landed Usyks waistband was covering his navel - as he bent his body as the blow landed his shorts slid up his torso.

Course, the referee doesn't have the advantage of any of that. These decisions always go in favour of the A side if there's any doubt. Which is to be expected.

I could literally see Usyk's belly button at times in the fight, not just after the fight ended. That punch was not "**** on the navel" so I don't know why you're asking that. People are blind apparently. My stump is 7 inches away from my belly button and everyone is acting like only a punch to the balls is illegal when that's simply not the case. You can have your navel covered by 2 inches of trunks and still have another 5-6 inches to your balls lol.

[Cyborg Fangerloo]

This just shows that his lack of education is the reason for his protest. It is not about the balls. A low blow is defined very clearly in the rules as well as the referees instruction. If he thought it was about the ********, he could also be saying that the punch was a long wave from that. The exact same thought process applies.

[SteveM]

Why do all of you casuals keep insisting that the balls themselves is the only area that can be a low blow? IT'S BELOW THE NAVEL, READ THE DAMN RULES.

What about on the navel? Like centre of glove is **** on the navel and bottom of glove below navel and top of glove above navel?

I thought that Usyk was wearing his trunks beltline below the navel as seen in th ering after the fight ended. If I'm cynical I can think either he or a member of his team pulled the trunks lower - why?

because slooking at slow mo video - when Dubois's blow landed Usyks waistband was covering his navel - as he bent his body as the blow landed his shorts slid up his torso.

Course, the referee doesn't have the advantage of any of that. These decisions always go in favour of the A side if there's any doubt. Which is to be expected.

[QballLobo]

I’m still not understanding how that determined the outcome of the fight. Even if it was ruled a knockdown Usyk gets back up and beats his ass the rest of the way.

[champion4ever]

When you attempt to win by DQ, you don’t get up and tell the ref “I’m good to go.”

just saying. Only one guy quit, and it wasn’t Usyk.

Then why did Oleksandr drop to the canvas in the first place? When you get low; The first thing a fighter does is double over while wincing with pain but they still remain on their feet.

However, that gut punch Daniel landed on Usyk; Literally knocked the wind out of him. Which was the only reason why he went to canvas in the first place. He was hurt and tried to quit in his efforts to win.

He tried to over sell a low blow in order to get Dubois either disqualified or get multiple points deducted from him because Usyk is both soft and tender to his body.

He doesn't like getting hit down there; Thus the reason why he kept constantly complaining to the referee over any body punch that DDD landed; Which were both legal and legit.

[Dr. Z]

But a low blow doesn’t mean just the nuts or dvck. Anything below the belly button is considered low. Literally no part of his glove even grazed the skin and Usyks trunks werent even high.

If he truly felt that he didn’t hit Usyk low, he had a full 5 minutes to think about attacking Usyks body for the remainder of the fight. Instead he never landed a good shot there again and quit after being dropped by a damn jab ffs

+1. Right. DDD has a glass jaw. Usyk is not a puncher. Yet he put him down twice, the last time he took the count? IMO he could have gotten up but chose not to.

If you know anything about cup guards they can slide on you went hit below the belt.