The skills of Errol Spence Jr

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  • Roadblock
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    #11
    Originally posted by MinuteMaid5

    Being basic doesn't win you 3 championships. Shalom
    Really I can name a truckload through history that were basic no special effect fighters that won many titles,, I feel you you don't understand basic in the context it is being used.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      He is basic just he is good at being basic, basic doesn't mean no skill it just means textbook fundamentals of boxing.
      I think "basic" means one thing to some people and to others it means something else.

      I'd wager to say that for most people, calling someone "basic" means bare bones, average, not spectacular or noteworthy.

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      • MinuteMaid5
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        #13
        Originally posted by Roadblock

        Really I can name a truckload through history that were basic no special effect fighters that won many titles,, I feel you you don't understand basic in the context it is being used.
        Um ok? I guess.

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          #14
          Originally posted by joesaiditstrue

          I think "basic" means one thing to some people and to others it means something else.

          I'd wager to say that for most people, calling someone "basic" means bare bones, average, not spectacular or noteworthy.
          I think it would be better to say "he's a fighter who excels at and relies on the basics" rather than to call him a basic fighter. Because, you're right, even the denotation there isn't the same at all.

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            #15
            Saul Canelo Alvarez is basic too right?
            Last edited by MinuteMaid5; 07-24-2023, 04:44 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by joesaiditstrue

              I think "basic" means one thing to some people and to others it means something else.

              I'd wager to say that for most people, calling someone "basic" means bare bones, average, not spectacular or noteworthy.
              Yep I agree its the terminology, basic in boxing style is the opposite of SRL , Roy Jones, Sweet Pea, more like Winky Wright, McCallum, Arguello, Monzon etc, the Sugar in boxing is the opposite of basic..

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              • Sheldon312
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                #17
                Originally posted by satiev1
                Straight up and down mr flat footed is gonna get his ass beat.
                Do you feel the same way about GGG, Hagler, and McCalum?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MinuteMaid5
                  Saul Canelo Alvarez is basic too right?
                  No! I am not the biggest Canelo fan but I think it's 50/50 against any ATG Middleweight including Hangler, Gerald, Monzon...etc

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    Spence Junior is a text book, very correct fighter. So he does nothing really wrong, or fundamentally he makes less technical mistakes then some of his competitors.

                    Many top fighters of late when you really analyse them, have all been textbook fighters.

                    Usyk is a text book fighter, he does nothing technically that is in my opinion THAT creative or unconventional.

                    Anthony Joshua is also a text book fighter 'Tyson Fury in comparison is not a text book fighter, with that comes a awkwardness for his opponents but? Fury is from what I have seen, more likely to make unforced errors at a higher rate than both Usyk & Joshua 'In 95% of Fury's fights, he will make unforced errors even against non-world level fighters'.

                    Crawford is not as text book as Spence Junior, but again? I don't think he is as unconventional as a fighter like Fury, or Wilder.

                    Note: Floyd Mayweather Junior was also a text book fighter, I have never considered Mayweather as a flashy flamboyant fighter, and he did nothing really outside of the correct text book type move's etc.



                    But did you watch the video? The analyst is saying that Spence is not "basic"

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sheldon312

                      But did you watch the video? The analyst is saying that Spence is not "basic"
                      Youre arguing terminology, a word can mean different things to different people, for me basic is textbook skills often taught by the book, the sugar in boxing is athleticism with cat-like reflexes, think ballroom dancing compared to break-dancing.

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