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  • Toffee
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    Joshua was exhausted in the first fight. He'd taken Usyk's shots. And wasn't close to being stopped.

    If Usyk stops him it would be a surprise.

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    I think the fight needs to happen now. Everyone is just repeating cliches.

    Usyk is a unprecedented talent. But his abilities in this moment are being pumped up and overrated just a tad. Yes he is in condition, and has good endurance.

    But if his endurance was at the level people suggest, why in the first fight did he not just constantly pressure Joshua? Kiltschko vs Joshua was a fight fought at a higher intensity.

    This is still a monumental challenge for Joshua, a mega fight. And if he wins it will be the greatest Heavyweight win of the past 20 years.

    I just think the fight needs to happen now. All the debates are just going around and around, people stating unoriginal cliches, then you have the masses of people who? Mark my words, depending on the outcome of the fight they will go 180 degree's on what they have been saying of late.

    I think all the training has pretty much been done. I just want to now see some insights into their training camps, and I want to see a round table event with former boxers and pundits etc.

    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-08-2022, 06:26 AM.

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  • AmpMcv
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    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

    Yes, everyone seems to think as soon as Josh gets tired he gets stopped?. Whereas I think as soon as Josh gasses, he goes AWOL for a few rounds takes a breather then comes back, look at wlad fight.
    Usyk didn't just unretire and he's not 40. He's not letting AJ "take a breather".

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  • AmpMcv
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    I don't care who you are, that's a LOT of muscle mass to have to oxygenate over 12 rounds.

    If AJ were to go straight cardio and ditch the weights he would still have quite a weight/height/reach advantage AND he could STILL try to be the bully.

    I'm not saying it would work but it would behoove him to drop some of that mass.

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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    What Frampton says is kind of obvious. I would say that Usyk seems to be coming in bigger for this fight. I don't know if that is a good idea. He is not used to carrying around a lot of weight. He said he was exhausted after the first fight - so he may tire a lot too. But he is clearly going for the KO this time round. Looking forward to seeing what happens. I think Usyk wins because AJ just doesn't have the chin to keep taking risks against someone who is so precise. And you can't change trainer and expect great results straight away either.

    IF Usyk did lose I can see a lot of people saying he was exposed at HW. You know "well he didn't look great against Witherspoon and Chisora and he only looked good against an AJ who tried to out box him". But I don't buy that myself.
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  • Silence
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    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Give Josh some respect, he's not getting stopped.
    Are u sure? If he tries to bully Ukrainian midget and fails, he will be punching bag for midget.

    Shıt cardio + shıt chin = Loss

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  • Good ol' Douglas
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    Originally posted by hhh1200 View Post

    Hill - Masterful combination of bodywork working up to the head and either stopping Usyk or forcing him to fight a negative 12 rounder
    Garcia - Bumrush Usyk like Maidana and get AJ pieced up coming in

    Zero faith in Garcia! If AJ wins this it's going to on his own.
    Garcia has no experience at HW and a poor record against southpaws. Moreover, he is on tape essentially saying Ruiz took AJ's soul.

    Man is there for the cheque and slight chance of victory that will etch his name permanently into boxing history.

    AJ likes comfortable environments and that is what he has found with the Angel-Garcia partnership.

    Also, I guarantee you he will not fight as aggressively as being made out. It is all cap.
    Last edited by Good ol' Douglas; 08-07-2022, 06:24 AM.

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  • hhh1200
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    Originally posted by 15round View Post
    Based on the first fight I picture Joshua on his stool late in the fight telling Garcia that Usyk has his number and he wants to hit the shower. Garcia screaming at Joshua. Machismo! Machismo! before throwing in the towel.
    Hill - Masterful combination of bodywork working up to the head and either stopping Usyk or forcing him to fight a negative 12 rounder
    Garcia - Bumrush Usyk like Maidana and get AJ pieced up coming in

    Zero faith in Garcia! If AJ wins this it's going to on his own.

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  • hugh grant
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    Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post
    Wow even Carl Frampton thinks that Joshua plans to bully Usyk in the next fight & could tire himself out...
    But
    No one knows for sure what trainer Robert Garcia official Fight plans/strategy are for this Aj/Usyk rematch
    It's all assumptions but I can't see AJ losing by KO
    I think Joshua will suprise a lotta these Negative posters here in the comments who all have him written off to lose
    We just gotta wait & see
    Yes, everyone seems to think as soon as Josh gets tired he gets stopped?. Whereas I think as soon as Josh gasses, he goes AWOL for a few rounds takes a breather then comes back, look at wlad fight.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 08-07-2022, 06:17 AM.
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  • 15round
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    Based on the first fight I picture Joshua on his stool late in the fight telling Garcia that Usyk has his number and he wants to hit the shower. Garcia screaming at Joshua. Machismo! Machismo! before throwing in the towel.

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