Comments Thread For: Danny Garcia Defends Father-Trainer Angel: Who You Start With Is Who You Finish With

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Danny Garcia has no plans on abandoning his closest confidante of his longtime fight career as he heads into a new division. Garcia, the two division titleholder from Philadelphia, is gearing up for his debut at the 154-pound limit against Jose Benavidez Jr. on July 30 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
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[tokon]

Imo the porter and Thurman fights could have gone Garcia's way, especially if he'd left it all in the ring so to speak. Maybe he did, only he knows, but it didn't appear that way. Even the Spence fight, although the defeat was more comprehensive, he didn't look like he was really giving 100%.

[thack]

His dad at times comes across as a real tosser but he seems to work for Danny and that's the important bit.

[cruz1383]

Imo the porter and Thurman fights could have gone Garcia's way, especially if he'd left it all in the ring so to speak. Maybe he did, only he knows, but it didn't appear that way. Even the Spence fight, although the defeat was more comprehensive, he didn't look like he was really giving 100%.

I also feel the same way, I think that it was Garcia that lost those fights (Thurman and Porter) mentally for himself. Spence that's another level and I think he could have made it more complicated for Spence and a lot harder for him also. Again mentally Garcia seems to give up or mentally let off when the going gets too tough in the ring. It doesn't seem to get him in loads of trouble but you can see it in his punch output and his lack of aggressiveness you first saw signs of it in the Herrera fight in Puerto Rico right after the Khan fight.

Maybe a new trainer fixes that but who knows, in reality its Danny that needs to fix that and I don't see him fixing that at this stage in his career. The eye of the tiger is real and it takes a special fighter just to have it and when that is gone it takes a higher level fighter to get that back.

I think Danny is content with what he has and the DSG social media fame that Philly seems to really like, that has assisted in the decline of his will to fight when the road gets ruff.

[mjh1969]

I agree with Danny's opinion on changing out trainers. That's the problem with boxing today. Boxers are too quick to change out trainers after a loss. When you go back and look at the boxing greats many of them stayed with one guy their entire career. Ali, Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, Trinidad, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Pacquiao, Alvarez etc. There were some boxers that changed trainers once that were successful such as Lewis, Holmes, Hopkins, Ray Leonard, Jones Jr. Mosley, etc. Then you have guys that change out trainers often such as Holyfield, Tyson (******), De la Hoya, etc who should have stayed with the same person. My point is that it isn't always the trainer's fault that the boxer doesn't listen to them during the fight. There shouldn't always be knee jerk reactions to change out trainers after a loss. Joshua is a good example of this. After he loses his fight with Usyk, who will he blame next?

[Combat Talk Radio]

I agree with Danny's opinion on changing out trainers. That's the problem with boxing today. Boxers are too quick to change out trainers after a loss. When you go back and look at the boxing greats many of them stayed with one guy their entire career. Ali, Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, Trinidad, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Pacquiao, Alvarez etc. There were some boxers that changed trainers once that were successful such as Lewis, Holmes, Hopkins, Ray Leonard, Jones Jr. Mosley, etc. Then you have guys that change out trainers often such as Holyfield, Tyson (******), De la Hoya, etc who should have stayed with the same person. My point is that it isn't always the trainer's fault that the boxer doesn't listen to them during the fight. There shouldn't always be knee jerk reactions to change out trainers after a loss. Joshua is a good example of this. After he loses his fight with Usyk, who will he blame next?

Depends on the fighter frankly.

Algieri, for example, was FAR superior with John David Jackson than he ever was with Tim Lane.

And Jeff Horn might have lasted longer had he gotten rid of Glenn Rushton.

Porter - who knows where he might be now if he'd dumped his dad and got someone that wasn't going to throw a fit and throw a towel?

[SUBZER0ED]

Danny doesn't necessarily need to get rid of Angel, but bringing in another set of eyes may bring a different perspective and could be beneficial.

[Boxfan83]

I think Danny's father gets the best out of him. He's always in shape, on weight, and his losses are as close as some of the wins he's ridiculed for.

I am interested in DSG vs J. Benavidez though. DSG should have the pedigree but Benavidez has the size and is a tough guy.

[Knuckle sandwich]

Agreed.

Garcia looks good great shape, I'm looking forward to this fight, I think garcia stops him late.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

I agree with Danny on this one! From what we've seen, Danny lost his big fights by close decision...though most could see him either not giving his best or simply not changing gears in those fights.

Again, if Angel was that bad then Danny probably would've been blown out by Thurman and Porter- but that didn't happen. Danny's always been a sold, basic fighter that most can't look good against.

The basics is what got him this far and I'm almost sure Angel taught him that much at the very least. When fighters change trainers, the common denominator is the fighter and the bad results in most cases, drives the point about the fighter being the issue and not the trainer.

We've seen quite a few father/son duos in boxing and those situations are quite delicate. If there's an issues in camp and/or fight night, that issue tends to spill over into the personal side. The dual-relationship piece is key, and Danny and Angel have stuck together despite the circumstances.

When I see duos like Flores Sr./Jr, and compare them to Danny and Angel...they're lightyears apart! At least Danny and Angel made it to the mountaintop a few times over what...the past 11 years now?

Salute to Team Garcia!