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  • #51
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
    manny failed to get the better of all his rivals

    Marquez flattened him in the 4th after giving him boxing lesson in the 3rd

    Floyd schooled manny

    2 of manny’s 3 biggest rivalries didn’t go his way. For this reason he’s the clear 2nd greatest of the era he was in
    Floyd cherrypicked the second half of his career. Not just one or two guys either the whole second half
    Last edited by djtmal; 05-28-2022, 10:22 PM.
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    • #52
      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
      manny failed to get the better of all his rivals

      Marquez flattened him in the 4th after giving him boxing lesson in the 3rd

      Floyd schooled manny

      2 of manny’s 3 biggest rivalries didn’t go his way. For this reason he’s the clear 2nd greatest of the era he was in
      Floyd may have bested Manny but the timing of when the fight happened will always have debate. It is what it is.

      Manny's and Juan's rivalry ended perfectly. If you remember their first fight Juan was knock down 3 times in the first round. Legendary series of fights 1 thru 4.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
        manny failed to get the better of all his rivals

        Marquez flattened him in the 4th after giving him boxing lesson in the 3rd

        Floyd schooled manny

        2 of manny’s 3 biggest rivalries didn’t go his way. For this reason he’s the clear 2nd greatest of the era he was in
        Floyd boys dream of the day when they can overpedestalize mediocrity and nobody says otherwise

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        • #54
          Originally posted by clmags12 View Post

          Floyd may have bested Manny but the timing of when the fight happened will always have debate. It is what it is.

          Manny's and Juan's rivalry ended perfectly. If you remember their first fight Juan was knock down 3 times in the first round. Legendary series of fights 1 thru 4.
          manny didn’t do well enough to make a case for what if it happened earlier

          in fact manny went on and had a longer career than Floyd

          fight 3 was all Marquez. Shame he got jacked

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          • #55
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post

            manny didn’t do well enough to make a case for what if it happened earlier

            in fact manny went on and had a longer career than Floyd

            fight 3 was all Marquez. Shame he got jacked
            You don't think what he did to Margarito was exceptional? All titles aside, the weight favored Marg. Heavy pressure and Manny backed him and basically ended his career by breaking his face. The Manny that fought that version of Marg had a better chance at Floyd than post JMM 4 Manny.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post

              manny didn’t do well enough to make a case for what if it happened earlier

              in fact manny went on and had a longer career than Floyd

              fight 3 was all Marquez. Shame he got jacked
              Floyds pops said on national tv that he lost to Oscar

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              • #57
                Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                Floyds pops said on national tv that he lost to Oscar
                Pacquiao own trainer said Floyd beat Manny and was the better fighter. Also said Manny ducked Floyd. Marquez told Pacquiao to his face that Floyd was better. TBE
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                • #58
                  Looks like Pacquiao carefully chose his opponents and still ended up with 8losses and 2draws. Manny fought in more catchweights, more vacant titles, and fought more fighters coming off losses. Floyd only faced two fighters coming off losses his entire career. It’s almost impossible for Manny to even be compared. Giving Manny credit for facing guys like Oscar at 147 while Floyd beat him at 154 a year earlier is laughable and only shows how low iq Floyd haters are.

                  Fights Lost
                  Pac 8
                  May 0

                  Draws
                  Pac 2
                  May 0

                  Catchweights
                  Pac: 4 Algieri, Marquez, Cotto, Margarito
                  May: 2 Canelo, Marquez

                  Titles Lost on Scales
                  Pac 1
                  May 0

                  Times Knocked Out or TKO
                  Pac 3
                  May 0

                  Times Knocked Unconscious
                  Pac 1
                  May 0

                  KO %
                  Pac 54
                  May 54

                  Fighters Fought 2 or more times
                  Pac 4 TB, Barrera, Morales, Marquez 12X
                  May 2 Maidana, Castillo 4X

                  Vacant Titles Fought For
                  Pac 8 4-2 in those fights
                  May 2 2-0 in those fights

                  Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat
                  Pac 3 Algieri, Bradley, Thurman
                  May 3 Corrales, Hatton, Canelo

                  Olympic Medals
                  Pac 0
                  May 1

                  Notable Fighters Fought who were coming off a LOSS or being KO
                  Pac: 8 Morales, Barrera, Clottey, Margarito Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios
                  May: 2 Judah, Corley

                  PPVs over 2M
                  Pac 1 Mayweather
                  May 4 Oscar, *McGregor, Canelo, Pac

                  PPVs again similar opponents
                  Pac/Cotto 1.25
                  May/Cotto 1.5

                  Pac/De La Hoya 1.3M
                  May/De La Hoya 2.4M

                  Pac/Mosley 1.3M
                  May/Mosley 1.4M

                  Marquez/May 1M
                  Marquez/Pac 3rd fight 1.3M

                  Pac/Hatton 850K
                  May/Hatton 850K

                  Opponents coming off KO/TKO win
                  May
                  Corrales
                  Berto
                  Madaina
                  Cotto
                  Mosley
                  Marquez
                  Hatton
                  De La Hoya
                  Baldomir
                  Gatti
                  Sosa
                  Castillo
                  Castillo

                  Pac
                  Barrera
                  Hatton
                  Vargas
                  Matthysse
                  Bradley3
                  Marquez 3


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                  Last edited by Amir Imam; 05-28-2022, 11:12 PM.
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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Amir Imam View Post

                    Pacquiao own trainer said Floyd beat Manny and was the better fighter. Also said Manny ducked Floyd. Marquez told Pacquiao to his face that Floyd was better. TBE
                    Nobody but you listens to Freddie Roach.

                    Floyd is definitely the better cherrypicker.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Silence View Post

                      Floyd bullied Marquez. Marquez was clearly smaller man. You know this.

                      Also, Pac beat Hatton better too. I forgot it. Floyd struggled against Hatton's swarmer style. Referee saved him. Floyd is better fighter but Pac did much better job against common opponents De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto and Mosley. Only Marquez is exception. Styles make fights.





                      May took Hatton's soul. Purely demoralizing. May didn't need saving.
                      If you think Pac fought the better versions of DLH* (and shot), Cotto*, Mosley (shot) and JMM (4x !), there's not much to say.

                      A person doesn't have to be a fan of either guy to acknowledge the truth.

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