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  • #51
    Originally posted by YoungManRumble View Post
    Knew this fight wouldn't happen. Seems like a convenient way for him to save face. I hope Cruz at least got a nice fat envelope to keep quiet
    This seems mutually beneficial to both parties, if not more beneficial for Cruz. I think PBC's objective is a Davis/Cruz rematch, and they're currently building Cruz's highlight reel with stay-busys. If Garcia beats Cruz, then once again the discussion becomes Garcia/Davis. If Davis leaves after demolishing Romero and tests the promotional waters, then he may choose to fight Garcia who becomes more credible if he clearly defeats Cruz beforehand. If Garcia faces Fortuna and Davis leaves, PBC will build Cruz as the guy that Davis doesn't want to rematch.


    • #52
      Ryan Garcia return planned for July as DAZN and Golden Boy announce multi-year partnership renewal
      DAZN and Golden Boy will continue working together, and the announcement noted Ryan Garcia planning a July return.

      DAZN and Golden Boy have announced a “multi-year, multi-fight” renewal of their partnership, which began in 2018 with a five-year deal, and the announcement also noted that Ryan Garcia will be returning to the ring in July.

      Golden Boy joined the DAZN team in 2018, then boasting Canelo Alvarez as the ace of their stable after HBO shut down boxing operations, opening the door for DAZN to come into the market with some star power.

      But it’s hard to argue that Golden Boy hasn’t been a clear No. 2 for DAZN’s boxing offerings other than Canelo, and the promotional company’s partnership with Alvarez ended in ugly fashion in late 2020. Canelo was also officially out of his DAZN deal by then, but he has continued to fight on the platform other than one bout with Premier Boxing Champions in 2021.

      There had been a lot of speculation that Golden Boy was looking for a new partner, with Triller at one point noted as a possible new business relationship, after De La Hoya had flirted with the company for what wound up an abandoned comeback idea.

      Since then, Triller have proven unreliable at best, incompetent at worst when it comes to putting on boxing shows that don’t feature Mike Tyson exhibitions (and that’s not happening again) or Jake Paul (who left for Showtime in 2021).

      “We are delighted to extend our partnership with Golden Boy,” said Ed Breeze, EVP Rights, DAZN. “Golden Boy has an excellent stable including some of the hottest prospects in boxing, and their shows always feature non-stop action from the first bell to the last. As part of our new partnership we will be looking to unearth the next generation of boxing talent in our new development series ‘Golden Boy Fight Night on DAZN.’”

      The press release also announced the returns of “undefeated superstars” Jaime Munguia in June — which has already been announced in a matchup that has been rightly, harshly criticized — Ryan Garcia in July, and Vergil Ortiz Jr in August, which has already been leaked for Aug. 6 against an opponent to be announced.

      So far in 2022, Golden Boy’s four true A-side fighters have faced or been slated to face opposition that has been knocked heavily, with understandable reason.

      Munguia fought D’Mitrius Ballard in February, and will face Jimmy “Kilrain” Kelly — on paper an even worse opponent — on June 11. Garcia returned from a long layoff to win a decision over Emmanuel Tagoe in April, a fight that had some interest going in and very little after the fact. Ortiz had been slated to face Michael McKinson, a fight that was scrapped after Ortiz had a bout with rhabdomyolysis. And Zurdo Ramirez recently fought what wound up a terrible mismatch with Dominic Boesel, while DAZN and Golden Boy spent fight week hyping up his undefeated record.

      Still, Golden Boy do have those guys, and all four of them can be marketable stars. Garcia is just 23, Ortiz is 24, Munguia is 25, and Ramirez is 30. There is time left for each of them in their prime years, and even to simply enter their true prime years. And two of them — Munguia and Ramirez — could be attractive opponents for Canelo, if Canelo is ever willing to work with Golden Boy again.

      In other words, even if Golden Boy aren’t producing what everyone might want right now, there is a pretty obvious long game to play here, and DAZN are willing to see it through and gamble on the company producing some stars.

      To that end, Golden Boy do develop prospects pretty well even if they don’t really get “blue chip” type signings anymore, and their “Golden Boy Fight Night” cards can be very fun when they bother to put in the effort for a well-matched main event, or at least breezy and easy to watch when they don’t.

      So while it’s easy to criticize what Golden Boy have produced for DAZN, especially recently — and heaven knows I have — it’s also not hard to see what DAZN are thinking in re-upping with the company. There is major money potential if things go as they should or at least could, and boxing can be a funny sport, anyway. You never know when a promoter who has struggled for a bit might get a shot in the arm in some way or another, produce an unexpected superstar, or simply sign the right “unknown” young talent who winds up being a big deal. Golden Boy have weathered some storms and some lean times before, and they’re still around and kicking.


      • #53
        Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

        I know what you are saying but this is a downgrade from Cruz as some others have already said. I'm not really impressed with Fortuna and, definitely not, after losing to JoJo Diaz. Ryan should fight William Zepeda or even JoJo at least.
        It's really not that much of a downgrade from Cruz homeboy. GBP just struck a nice fat partnership with DAZN. You know what happened when GB offered Cruz the Ryan fight last time right? Gibbons came back with the nonsense that it should be co-promoted and on PPV. Having just struck the deal It's no coincidence Oscar pulled the plug on that and will focus building Ryan solely on DAZN,as he should. Sure,JoJo would've been preferred but I'm certain he was asking for a substantial purse and as certain that he's more than likely next for Ryan once he puts Fortuna to sleep.

        Fortuna is about half notch below Cruz/JoJo and about half a notch above Rolly so not much to complain about considering it will not be on PPV. Don't know why you're so high on Zepeda either. Did you not see Rene counter his ass hard ALL night in his last fight? Guy looked like **** and would get slept by Ryan with that lack of defense. Ryan's a douche...but he's the truth,watch.


        • #54
          The sanctioning bodies should never bow down to the will of the promoters.

          If the WBC orders something then they should carry it through to the end, let the promoters deal with the consequences and drop in the rankings if they don't comply.


          • #55
            Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

            Hey bro it’s usually great to go back and forth with you but this one smacks of arguing just to argue. No he isn’t as popular as he used to be because the American sports fan doesn’t see him like they used to because he doesn’t fight for an outfit that gives access to sports fans in the usa. And let’s be crystal sparkling clear, he is damaged goods…not only because he was soundly whipped…again….but because people again see that he is protected by the boxing establishment through corrupt judging and careful matchmaking. Reynoso, Hearn, and DLH all say they have to be careful who they put him in with because they don’t want him to lose. Would someone say that about Spence? Crawford? Charlo? Fury? And back to losing again, his record could easily have 4 losses on it, to GGG and Lara. This isn’t JC superstar. So yes, he isn’t as popular here as he used to be and since you’re not in the USA how would you know?
            Relax man lol. I'm just voicing an opinion. I can't believe that, of those who watched his last fight, lots of them are suddenly not fans now because he lost. Do the bulls lose a game then suddenly become a far less popular team? He's still popular. Perhaps less so in the eyes of some, because they're not keen on where he plys his trade. But on the whole he's still gonna retain the majority of his fanbase, who if anything will be more eager to see him bounce back. If he loses his next, then you may be right. But for now I'm sure he's still the biggest star in the game. And I can relate to it because here in UK land it happened with Joshua. Happening again actually. If he loses this next one, then he'll be suddenly less popular. And it would be the same with Fury. His fans will back him to bounce back all the way, if he loses.


            • #56
              Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
              Where should a 23 year old be, levels wise ?

              Him and those his age will reveal themselves to be the real deals or pure hype, as did Broner and Horn
              At least win one of these dime a dozen belts?


              • #57
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

                At least win one of these dime a dozen belts?
                Boxing should not be a fast food sport
                Hurry up, everything all at once right now

                A youngster has to have time to prove themselves.
                The sport will expose hype jobs in due time.


                • #58
                  Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

                  I think he's talking about people like IRONCHINHAGLER who demeans every Hispanic fighter African Americans beat. This just came to mind, not targeting IronChin.
                  nah..just the endless string of B-level or old past it overmatched Hispanic fighters Pbc/Mayweather keeps feeding Davis. Just cant ever risk that 0! Davis is probably getting bored beating the same type of fighter over and over in ppv mismatches. No risk no reward no signature win no legacy but hey - props to being a millionaire!!