So Canelo moves up to fight a guy he's bigger than and people are saying he deserves respect. Meanwhile, Wilder fights Fury who has nearly 40lbs on him, but Wilder is laughed at and considered a joke

[TernceBudCharlo]

What were the weights day of fight? Was it documented? Anyone watching that fight can clearly see Bivol was the bigger man in the ring. All boxing experts are saying the move to 175 is too much for him.

Bivol was 183, Canelo was certainly more than that. Canelo was clearly the denser/muscular fighter.

Which boxing experts were these? 99% of the so called "boxing experts" I saw said he'd beat Bivol with ease and then he'd move up to HW and smash Usyk with BODY SHOTS!!

[GhostofDempsey]

Bivol was 183, Canelo was certainly more than that. Canelo was clearly the denser/muscular fighter.

Which boxing experts were these? 99% of the so called "boxing experts" I saw said he'd beat Bivol with ease and then he'd move up to HW and smash Usyk with BODY SHOTS!!

If Canelo was more than 183, he was a soft 183+. His physique didn't look up to his usual conditioning. Did anyone weight them officially the day of the fight? I didn't see these weights reported. I also have a set of eyes that can clearly see who the bigger man was in the ring that night.

[Haka]

it still matters a lot.


which is why Marciano, Tyson, Frazier don't have long reigns like Lennox Lewis or Wlad Klit. Now Tyson Fury.


In Lennox's era, there was Holyfield, Tyson, Morrison, Rahman etc....... Lennox Lewis was the biggest.

In Klit's era there were Byrd, Tua, Peters, Arreola etc.... the Klits were the biggest.

In today's era there is Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Usyk ....... Fury stands above the rest. He is also the biggest.


Size matters.

What if Tyson kept in shape and dedicated and met Lewis in the 90s ? What if Tyson Ducky grows a pair and faces Usyk ? Klits had the softest era ever. Every other fight was against a live body. Joshua, a glorified amateur retired Klitschko for F sake. Joshua that got sparked against small fat Andy Ruiz.

[Toffee]

Wilder is 6'7". He's naturally a heavyweight. He weighs what he chooses to weigh in the open category.

Any weight class discussion simply doesn't apply.

[Roadblock]

Bivol was 183, Canelo was certainly more than that. Canelo was clearly the denser/muscular fighter.

Which boxing experts were these? 99% of the so called "boxing experts" I saw said he'd beat Bivol with ease and then he'd move up to HW and smash Usyk with BODY SHOTS!!

A bag of water can weigh heavier than a bag of muscle, Canelo was what you call wet, full of fluid, not only does that excess dead weight slow him down it make you run hot, his opponent was on the weight correctly giving him physical, stamina, and body efficiency advantages, Canelo was blowing like a draught horse.

I don't care that Bivol won, he is a quality fighter and Canelo wasn't good enough under the conditions to beat him and was dominated, Canelo fully accepted the conditions so its not an excuse for losing but it can be a legit reason why he lost, that we wont know unless they fight again at 168, which then it can flip the script and Bivol be weight drained, so either way we have 2 guys a weight class or 2 away from each other, there will always be some BS that goes with that when the bigger man wins, and a CW will always be controversial when the smaller man wins, that's boxing.

[just the facts]

You are one stupid sack of ****tt you dont even believe the BS yu say

A guy (you) who claims “most in the media had Canelo beating Bivol” and despite getting dominated by Bivol, Canelo is still p4p #1 should NEVER under any circumstances EVER refer to another poster as “one stupid sack of shyte”. But that would be a perfect description of YOU!

[BodyBagz]

Someone explain the hypocrisy

HW should have a SHW div....In this scenario, DW would have gotten some respect.

Smaller men have fought Fury.

[Sid-Knee]

Why would Wilder get respect for fighting Fury who at the time was seen by Wilder and his team, as shot? That's the only reason they fought. But when Fury got the draw, Wilder had to fight Fury when at his best or run away from him as well as all the other fighters. Wilder was trapped. It had nothing to do with courage or risk.

How many times does this need to be said?

[tritium_arma]

Mind bobbling isn't it?

[edgarg]

Did canelo get dropped and ktfo?????

How the **** are yu comparing the two.smh

You really don't seem to understand the headings. Your other posts are the same. What has not being" dropped to do with the fact that Wilder was brave enough to fight a guy THREE TIMES, who outweighed him by WELL OVER 40 lbs, as well as being inches taller and longer reach. Not to forget that Fury is undefeated and not likely to ever be beaten, Although was dropped a few times himself by that undersized Wilder..

You just never seem to make any sense. Maybe you should take your time to read the items properly and get the meaning of them.,,,,