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Yes without a doubt. Beat a by far better version of Kell Brook, Danny Garcia, Ugas, better version of Shawn Porter.
Crawford I don't think has any solid wins at Welterweight.
The Porter fight is good, but I read on here that Porter was battling injuries which altered his training.
Crawford has good wins at Welter Weight, where as Spence Junior has great wins.
That win against Danny Garcia, after his accident is for me his best win.
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Some facts for others:- Errol Spence has wins over FIVE Top 5 Welterweights. Even though one of them arguably shouldn't have been rated, his fans rated him, so the media ran with it. Crawford has one win over a Top 5 - Jeff Horn. BUT...
-- Errol stopped 147-undefeated Kell Brook on his home turf to take back the IBF that Shawn Porter lost in the US, forcing Kell to take a knee and shattering his eye socket. Crawford refused to fight anyone overseas after Ricky Burns took him the distance - thus he refused to fight Horn in Australia which would have made that a better signature win, and Horn was stopped on his feet, still throwing and evading, by a trigger ref after Crawford whiffed 3 punches. Crawford would later duck Horn's rematch request.
- - Errol dominated Mikey "Fist Pump" Garcia in a shutout after Mikey's fans and the media hyped Mikey as the one guy who could outbox Spence. Mikey's never been the same. Meanwhile, Crawford was getting jabbed to hell by Amir Khan before low-blowing him to get him out in a PPV that caused Arum to lose his shirt "...enough money to buy a house out in Beverly Hills, nice house too"
- - Errol beat Shawn Porter and took his WBC, employing Porter's own strategy against him and fighting toe-to-toe, something even Keef wouldn't do. Meanwhile, Crawford struggled with Kavaliauskas before illegally holding and hitting and forcing a ref stoppage out of frustration.
- - Errol comes back from a major car wreck and completely WASHES Danny 'Swift' Garcia over 12 - same Danny Swift that damn near beat Porter for the vacant WBC. Meanwhile, Crawford drops all four rounds to the ghost of Kell Brook before Brook eats a shot and essentially quits.
- - Errol tries to go after Manny but injury gets in the way. Ugas dominates Manny and retires him on 11 days notice, Spence dominates Ugas but gets two-pieced and wobbled in the process. Goes to war, becomes the first to stop Yordenis Ugas and takes his WBA title - same Ugas that arguably beat Shawn Porter. Meanwhile, Crawford drops 5 rounds to a two-hip-arthritic post-COVID infection Shawn Porter before adjusting and then, still can't significantly hurt Porter; Kenny has to stop it even though others in the corner tried to keep him from doing it. Turns out that Kenny stopped it to send a message to Shawn about not doing what he wanted him to do, not that Shawn was hurt (he wasn't).
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- Errol stopped 147-undefeated Kell Brook on his home turf to take back the IBF that Shawn Porter lost in the US, forcing Kell to take a knee and shattering his eye socket. Crawford refused to fight anyone overseas after Ricky Burns took him the distance - thus he refused to fight Horn in Australia which would have made that a better signature win, and Horn was stopped on his feet, still throwing and evading, by a trigger ref after Crawford whiffed 3 punches. Crawford would later duck Horn's rematch request.
- Errol Spence unified THREE of the welterweight titles. He's arguably the lineal at this point.
- - Errol Spence is beating champions to get his belts. When Crawford was at 135 and 140, many of his reigns including lineal were vacants, not beating champions.
- - Manny was ranked #3 and Spence #1 when Manny was about to fight Spence, and Ring came out and said they would reinstate the title for that fight. After Crawford's suspect win over Porter, Ring elevated Crawford to #1 and dropped Spence to #2, which made it so that Ring wasn't obligated to reinstate the title for Spence/Ugas even though Ugas beat the #1 guy, elevated after Spence dropped out with injury. (it had to be #1 and #2 or #1 and #3).
Errol Spence is CLEARLY the #1 guy at welterweight. There's no debate there.
The problem is that Errol has shown he's on a slight decline now. Whether that's his physical injuries or mental or emotional, he's certainly not the same guy that blew out Carlos 'Chema' Ocampo off body shots (who BTW is campaigning at 154, for the "smaller guy" naysayers).
We're still a fan of Spence...but watching him eat a two-piece and get rocked by Ugas doesn't bode well, because if anyone can exploit that ******ity, it's Crawford. And we don't want Crawford getting another asterisk win because his opponent makes a mistake, as has always been his pattern at 147.Comment
- Errol Spence has wins over FIVE Top 5 Welterweights. Even though one of them arguably shouldn't have been rated, his fans rated him, so the media ran with it. Crawford has one win over a Top 5 - Jeff Horn. BUT...
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It is also understandable if Spence Junior is kind of struggling with his form, he is not quite at his peak. But to compensate for this, I think he may have adapted his game.
Just seems to me like, he has gone into overdrive on aggression and body attacks. Nothing fancy he just keeps things solid and simple.
Crawford vs Spence Junior is a 50/50 fight. Because Spence Junior, is probably not the fighter he was before his accident. And as you have pointed out, he for sure has a better resume at Welter- Weight than Crawford, and even now past his peak? He is still fighting and beating better fighters than Crawford at Welter Weight.
I cannot remember him ever really being hurt before his accident? Was he ever rocked?
But the positives I take from him being rocked is how he reacts. Soon as he was hurt by Ugas, his mentality did not change. He was still in a extremely aggressive and determined mode.
So yes 50/50 fight, but if the fight is announce next 'I would probably back Spence Junior to win'.
I just sense that he can raise his game by a certain percentage. In another thread I spoke about the clutch game in basketball.
Spence Junior seems like a big time performer in the clutch i.e Traveling away from home to beat Kell Brook, jumping back in with Danny Garcia after his accident. These are all giant challengers, fights if he would of lost 'Would of set him back a long way'.
I think the fight has to happen soon as possible for Spence Junior, because maybe he will move up to 154 pounds soon.
Spence Junior has fought in bigger fights, been under more pressure and won.
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It's decent sure but then one can easily say we'll Joshua has beaten Klitschko and Whyte as well so he can claim to be the "best of this era" as well righ,undefeated or not? Only factor separated the 2 is Furys win over Wilder but we"ll never know how good those wins are considering Wilder never has beaten anyone sans geriatric Ortiz.
On top of that Joshua has Ruiz,Parker,Povetkin etc.....and if he pulls off the win against Usyk? Not much meat to "the best of this era" with Fury honestly. Not sure why such the high praise with him. I mean I understand why Wilder fans view him as such,it's all they can hang thier hat on considering he got mollywhopped but other than that?....Comment
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Yeah, I don’t dispute any of that necessarily, just playing devil’s advocate, really.
Ofc, there is the other argument that no-one knows how good most boxers are, with exceptions, not just Wilder. It’s well documented how much the boxing orgs are directly influenced by promoters, boxers, and indirectly by boxers’ marketability when it comes to arranging the rankings. I would argue that this undermines the ranking system in it a entirety. The implication being that perhaps all the names one could mention on anyone’s resume aren’t as good as we’re led to believe?Comment
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Sweet, Thanks.
Spence Junior reacted very similar to Floyd Mayweather Junior.
When they are hurt, similar mannerisms and mentality. It seems very difficult to knock them off their game.
I am not sure whether this is entirely down to physical toughness, or a mental defiance.
Look how quick Spence Junior snapped back into aggression mode, or whatever mode he was in before being hurt etc.
Usually when fighters are rocked you see them change game plan, at least or awhile. It may take them a round or two to get back into their mode.
The great fighters snap back quicker. It seems to be a specific skill, that some fighters have.
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Spence is mentally different after the accident. Angrier but more sure of himself.
Since nobody else will, even Porter, we'll make a call.
We think Spence gets dropped but ultimately decisions Crawford OR it's a controversial draw.
We don't see Crawford beating Errol. Haven't for years. Never have.
Crawford takes too many punches he shouldn't. That might work against the ghost of Kell Brook, but it won't work against Spence (Ugas, Brook).
Crawford also can't chill in the cut/run like he did against Postol, because Spence will get to you (Mikey, Algieri).
Crawford won't be able to just rely on counters (Danny Swift).
Crawford certainly won't be able to bully Spence (Porter).
Crawford won't be able to out-bodywork Spence (Ocampo).
Crawford won't be able to rely on excessive clinching to stop the momentum like he did with Horn (Brook).
The only way Crawford beats Spence from our eyes, is if Spence makes a mistake. Because Spence has fought and beaten a variety of tough styles. Crawford hasn't at 147. That experience will matter.
But just think about that.
Spence is so good it would take him making a mistake.
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They got like a deal going. Lennox gives Fury hype, and from time to time Fury gives Lennox some nice gestures like last saturday when he said "That right uppercut would have made Lennox Lewis proud". Feeding eachother's big ego's.Comment
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