Canelo should be ranked higher than FloydJr on the all timers list.

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  • just the facts
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    #41
    Originally posted by Haka
    To me all his previous wins is in the same category as Floyd's but now the Bivol fight is Floyd's Lara fight. So if he wins against Bivol he is higher than Floyd.
    Do you post for shock value or do you actually believe that bu!!shyte?

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    • Comanche
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      #42
      Originally posted by anonymous2.0


      Its time for people to move on.

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      • Haka
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        #43
        Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

        With that rational Canelo should be over Pac too.
        No no Pac is from an even lower weight and see what he did. He took all fights, never backed out of anything like a true champion.

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        • STREET CLEANER
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          #44
          Originally posted by Haka

          No no Pac is from an even lower weight and see what he did. He took all fights, never backed out of anything like a true champion.
          The catchweight king. You just contradicted yourself.

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            #45
            Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

            The catchweight king. You just contradicted yourself.
            True but at the time I really never had a problem with it since he was so small compared to those guys. He boxed in a forward destroying manner as a (sometimes much) smaller man, now that is rare and admirable.
            Last edited by Haka; 04-21-2022, 01:35 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Haka

              True but at the time I really never had a problem with it since he was so small compared to those guys. He boxed in a forward destroying manner as a (sometimes much) smaller man, now that is rare and admirable.
              Pac in all his greatness had short comings and holes can be plugged like any other fighter. I see where your mind lies.

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                #47
                Floyd made so many top fighters look average.

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                • Haka
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict
                  Floyd made so many top fighters look average.
                  Fair point.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by VG_Addict
                    Floyd made so many top fighters look average.
                    And Canelo was one of them………….

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Haka
                      Floyd beat Canelo when Canelo was GREEN. The haters are going to say: Floyd was prime at 23 yrs old so Canelo should too.

                      Here is why that is a faulty comparison:

                      Floyd was getting world class training (Roger, Floyd Sr) since he could walk, Canelo started boxing at 13. Those are already 8 years difference in experience (if Floyd started at 5yrs of age for ex.). Age 5-13 are very formative so getting the proper training in childhood is what very much makes the difference. It means that in the Floyd - Canelo fight, Canelo had 10 yrs of experience and Floyd 30+ years experience.

                      Now the reason why Canelo is ranked higher is because Floyd did the chicken dance after coming out of retirement (because his skillset had not much turnover rate at the higher weights). He took on Maiden, Berto, Ghost, Ortiz, Baldomir etc. etc. Fights that Floyd was a heavy favourite in before hand by the bookies (for good reason since most fighters were cherrypicked bums.) Instead the fans wanted to see dangerous fights with: Williams, Prime Cotto, Wright, GGG, Mosley (2008), Tszyu, Margarito, Prime Pac, Lara. Floyd ducked them all.

                      Canelo is now taking on these dangerous fight that Floyd never dared to take in fighting Bivol. Fighting Bivol is alike Floyd fighting Lara (which never happened). So that is why.
                      He is on my list. I’m not concerned with what the “status quo” thinks.

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