Comments Thread For: Spence-Crawford Unviable Because of 'Economics,' Crawford Not PPV Star, Says PBC Spokesperson

[D3v1Ld0g]

I'd rather watch a Crawford fight than errol Spence . But these two is what the crowd wants and I would gladly pay the 80 to 100 bucks for the Ultra 4k broadcast. I'd go as high as 120 if one undercard is a really good one.

[The Big Dunn]

Spence - Porter did = 170k buys
Crawford - Porter did = 135k buys

money isn’t there

I don’t think the money isn’t there as much as they have to charge a price so high and spend so much to promote it that all parties have to be willing to take less because we know the illegal streams will be high.

Should be an entertaining fight that attracts casual fans.

[QballLobo]

Terence Crawford Sues Bob Arum, Accusing Him Of Racial Bias
January 12, 2022

It’s easy to understand why the handful of fights Crawford has had on PPV failed to bring in a lot of buys. He was facing the wrong guys to sell on PPV.

Crawford’s three fights on PPV were against these fighters: Shawn Porter, Amir Khan, and Viktor Postol. There was no way that Crawford or any boxer would sell on PPV fighting Postol and Khan.

By the time Crawford fought Porter on PPV, he’d already been beaten by Errol Spence Jr, Kell Brook, and Keith Thurman, and some fans saw him as a gatekeeper. Porter was no longer a big enough name for him to be a viable opponent for Crawford to fight on PPV, which is why it failed to bring in huge numbers.

Crawford’s attorney, Bryan Freedman, worked with Mikey Garcia in his suit with Top Rank in 2014.

“Unlike other boxers bound to Top Rank contracts, Terence can assert his claims in court without Top Rank forcing him to sit out,” Freedman said. ”

Arum’s recent comment that he “Could build a house in Beverly Hills on the money I’ve lost on him in the last three fights.”

According to ESPN, that comment from Arum could be interpreted as him denigrating Crawford and hurting his reputation and potential to be signed by another promotional company after he left Top Rank.

The Spence-Crawford fight hasn’t happened because of the enormous purse guarantees both fighters needed for this match to occur, said Arum. He says Crawford and Spence both wanted $9-10 million for their clash, but Arum didn’t know who would put up that kind of dough.

“Spence wants a lot of money for the fight, and so does Terrence, and who is going to put up that money — $9 or $10M a piece, and how are you going to make that money back?” said Arum to the New York Post.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/ter/210468

Canelo did 600k buys with Khan.

It has to make business sense. Bud is not a mainstream draw but wants to get paid like one. I think that opportunity has passed for him. He decided to sign and stay with Arum and seemed ok taking soft fights for good guarantees.
He can blame Arum all he wants but IMO he wasted his real prime years.
Haymon is looking at the big picture. How much does he have to guarantee Bud for it to make sense? How much business does this fight do? And if Bud wins what other fights can be made? Will Bud sign a deal with PBC or is it a one fight deal?
Unfortunately Bud has put himself in a position where he doesn’t have much control over the fights that can be made.

[Jsmooth9876]

I was afraid Spence was going to 154 after ugas and not fight Crawford. This all but confirms it. Unless this is some new marketing ploy to downplay the fight then surprise us. Lol no.

If Crawford signs with pbc and haymon doesn’t make the Spence fight then he will have hurt his business and the sport and will deserve criticism.

Crawford could still go to 154 and fight the winner of Castano/Charlo and it would be big. Same for Spence but he trains with one of them, not sure which so he probably won't fight the 154 brother so there is literally nothing there for Spence at that weight

[IAmABoxingGuru]

Nobody likes losing money. Both of these guys windows has come and gone. Spence is flipping Ferraris drunk out of his mind and Spence is an overrated racist. Both typical black thugs. Get money, lose mind. Good riddance to both of them.

You have been reported.

[The Big Dunn]

Crawford could still go to 154 and fight the winner of Castano/Charlo and it would be big. Same for Spence but he trains with one of them, not sure which so he probably won't fight the 154 brother so there is literally nothing there for Spence at that weight

Solid point. I will enjoy those fights but as a fan I think Spence/ Crawford is the fight we as fans want to see because it’s a clash of styles at the highest level.

[The Big Dunn]

You have been reported.

I get why you reported him. Thing is he’s One of the few that are being completely honest about how they see the situation.

[Jsmooth9876]

I think they both could get around 6 million for the fight easily.
400k buys at $75 is 30 mill.. take the 55% off for the tv stuff and that leaves around 13.5 mill
let's say like 7 mill gate so total of 20-21 mill...

gotta promote it and what not and I'm sure that cost some decent cash..

They could be looking to split around let's say 20 million

they would only get a guarantee of like 6 million a piece I bet and then add in the piece of the PPV revenue brings them up to around 8 maybe after the promoter gets his piece of the pie also

[Jsmooth9876]

Solid point. I will enjoy those fights but as a fan I think Spence/ Crawford is the fight we as fans want to see because it’s a clash of styles at the highest level.

Of course that's why I can't see how they think it won't sell. It's literally the biggest fight in the sport and one that fans have been waiting for, for like 3 years now.

[Jsmooth9876]

I'd rather watch a Crawford fight than errol Spence . But these two is what the crowd wants and I would gladly pay the 80 to 100 bucks for the Ultra 4k broadcast. I'd go as high as 120 if one undercard is a really good one.

erase this sh** right now before someone sees it and thinks we would pay that much lol