George Kambosos Must Fight Loma Because Haney Fight Is Pointless—Kambosos Can't Get WBC Belt

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  • Cypocryphy
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    George Kambosos Must Fight Loma Because Haney Fight Is Pointless—Kambosos Can't Get WBC Belt

    I'm making this post because I'm tired about having to argue with people who don't know any better. Here's the situation:
    George Kambosos has to fight Lomachenko because fighting Haney would be pointless. If Kambosos were to beat Haney, the WBC Champion Belt would be left vacant for either the interim champion or for ranked boxers to fight for it. The rules are that you cannot retain the WBC Champion Belt if you are a Franchise Champion.


    Case in point is Estrada, who is the latest champion designated as a franchise champion by the WBC. He immediately lost his WBC Champion Belt, where the super flyweight title is now vacant. These are the rules. So if George cannot earn Haney's belt, then it's a pointless fight unless it makes economic sense. But the Lomachenko fight is worth more from an economic standpoint, especially in Australia.

    ​​​​​​​It is for this reason that Kambosos is not going to fight for Haney's belt and we'll see Lomachenko vs Kambosos in 2022.
    “3.26 Franchise Boxer. The Franchise Boxer is a special designation and privileged status which the WBC may bestow to a current WBC World Champion, who is also an elite boxer, and who has achieved and maintains the highest of statures in the sport. In its discretion, the WBC may, upon a 2/3rd vote of the Board of Governors, designate a WBC Franchise Boxer.


    As you can see, Kambosos is already the WBC World Champion.
    Last edited by Cypocryphy; 12-15-2021, 09:24 PM.
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    I guess he could fight him just to say, "I got all the belts from Teofimo and beat the one guy who had a belt besides Teofimo".

    Kambosos situation is really weird. Beating Teofimo earned him all the belts and lineal champion even though Teofimo didn't have the WBC belt?

    That's weird af.

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      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
      I guess he could fight him just to say, "I got all the belts from Teofimo and beat the one guy who had a belt besides Teofimo".
      He wouldn't be able to say that because Tank would still have a belt.

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        #4
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        I guess he could fight him just to say, "I got all the belts from Teofimo and beat the one guy who had a belt besides Teofimo".

        Kambosos situation is really weird. Beating Teofimo earned him all the belts and lineal champion even though Teofimo didn't have the WBC belt?

        That's weird af.
        the wbc franchise champion is above the normal wbc champ. thats why everyone saying loma ducked haney by dropping his belt are so silly. he got something better and thats a bad thing?

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          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

          He wouldn't be able to say that because Tank would still have a belt.
          yeah no one takes interim belts seriously though. its like saying the spence crawford winner has to fight radzhab butaev cause he has the same wba belt tank does. sorry but no
          Last edited by daggum; 12-15-2021, 09:31 PM.

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            Originally posted by F l i c k e r
            I guess he could fight him just to say, "I got all the belts from Teofimo and beat the one guy who had a belt besides Teofimo".

            Kambosos situation is really weird. Beating Teofimo earned him all the belts and lineal champion even though Teofimo didn't have the WBC belt?

            That's weird af.
            Yeah. Well, not really if you regard the franchise status as similar to a super champion. You have regular champions and super champions in the WBA. That's not confusing for anyone.

            The only reason this is confusing is due to Haney, Matchroom and DAZN pushing this narrative. Hearn wants all the belts for his promotional company because it makes both Matchroom, his fighter and the DAZN more money. So they will say whatever they can to twist the narrative to their purpose.

            But really, the only opinion that matters is the WBC's opinion because they make the rules for the belts of the WBC, and they have repeatedly said that Teofimo was undisputed and that Kambosos is undisputed now. Take out the political bull****, and it's clear cut: You beat the man who beat the man.

            It's unfortunate for Haney, but he's really milked this situation to maneuver himself into the possibility of fighting for all the belts. But it's just an illusion because everyone knows who the champion is and everyone knows that you have to fight for a championship belt to be a champion. You can't be given a belt.

            Anyway, it's pretty simple if you regard it the same as the super champion belt and the regular champion belt. To me it's pretty simple. And it's also obvious that Bill and Devin Haney, Hearn, Matchroom and DAZN, the only one's spouting this "not undisputed" BS, have every incentive in the world to push that narrative onto the public.
            Last edited by Cypocryphy; 12-15-2021, 09:33 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by daggum

              the wbc franchise champion is above the normal wbc champ. thats why everyone saying loma ducked haney by dropping his belt are so silly. he got something better and thats a bad thing?
              but officially Teofimo didn't win the WBC title. He only won WBO, WBA, and Ring from Loma while retaining the IBF. So it's weird to me that Kambosos gets the franchise? Or did Teofimo get that belt as well? It's not being seen as an official title though in records. I doubled checked the fight too and Teo nor Kambo received a WBC strap by winning. Seems like it's not being recognized on the record books.

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                He wouldn't be able to say that because Tank would still have a belt.
                Tank has a pointless belt though. He has the WBA regular belt. Kambosos won the WBA super belt. So, it's no point in that one. Kinda like Lomachenko's intercontinental strap he got for beating Commey.

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                  Originally posted by daggum
                  yeah no one takes interim belts seriously though. its like saying the spence crawford winner has to fight radzhab butaev cause he has the same wba belt tank does. sorry but no
                  Tank doesn't have an interim belt. He has a regular belt just like Haney.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    Tank has a pointless belt though. He has the WBA regular belt. Kambosos won the WBA super belt. So, it's no point in that one.
                    And Haney has the WBC regular belt. Kambosos won the WBC franchise belt. So, it's no point in that one.

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