Am I the only person who still thinks Lopez is a better fighter than Kambosos?

[Earl-Hickey]

Call me crazy, it wouldn't be the first time


But I think we saw the worst Lopez ever vs the best Kambosos could possibly produce and Lopez still was one punch from finishing him in the 10th.

I've just seen enough weird upsets that were avenged in the next fight that I'd be confident in picking Lopez in a rematch, I think he has all the tools to close Kambosos out in routine fashion if he doesn't half ass it again


*Australian casuals who thought mundine was going to be an ATG need not reply

[-Kev-]

Well, when it mattered most, which is head 2 head, Kambosos outfought Lopez.

Lopez also, in round 1, started fighting Kambosos like he was supposed to. Lopez was supposed to wipe the floor. Those were his and his dad’s expectations. That’s what they were talking about pre fight. Lopez went in there very aggressively, going for the KO in round 1. That was everyone’s expectation. Even pro fighters expected Lopez to end Kambosos early.

Instead he was dropped by the guy with 10KO’s and immediately changed his gameplan on the fly. That right hand humbled him all the way down. That right hand led to Kambosos gaining immediate respect by Lopez. It also did not help that Lopez’s shots were not really hurting Kambosos like everyone expected.

As a nail in the coffin, when Lopez finally dropped and hurt Kambosos, he decided to follow him around, taunting, talking, and mocking him, instead of punching and finishing him. Kambosos intelligently took the opportunity of Lopez acting like a completely unprofessional child and used that time to recover.

Lopez was just outfought, outsmarted, outboxed, everything. Kambosos was just better than him at everything. Including the post fight interview. Kambosos showed who the better fighter and better man was all the way to the end. Lectured him on how to act and everything.

Teofimo Lopez Jr, by the end of that night, was actually George Kambosos III, because he was sonned from round 1 to the end of the show by Kambosos Jr. Teofimo Sr lost custody of his son that night, he lost custody to Kambosos, Teofimo’s new dad.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Skill and technique CANT exclude intestinal fortitude. From what I saw in that fight versus any other is that Kambosos is a True Grit fighter. He will trade or retaliate even if his opponent throws. This was probably Kambosos’ best night. Kambosos attacked Lopez the same way Floyd would respond to Canelo’s attacks. Just counter and get points.

“Better fighter” is incomplete if you don’t include context or dynamics. Amir Khan is a talented mover with speed in combinations, but can’t take hard shots. That’s just the nature of the sport. Even Prince Nas. He froze up when he fought Barrera because he respected that power. Lopez respected Kambosos’ power as well as the grit

[Earl-Hickey]

Skill and technique CANT exclude intestinal fortitude. From what I saw in that fight versus any other is that Kambosos is a True Grit fighter. He will trade or retaliate even if his opponent throws. This was probably Kambosos’ best night. Kambosos attacked Lopez the same way Floyd would respond to Canelo’s attacks. Just counter and get points.

“Better fighter” is incomplete if you don’t include context or dynamics. Amir Khan is a talented mover with speed in combinations, but can’t take hard shots. That’s just the nature of the sport. Even Prince Nas. He froze up when he fought Barrera because he respected that power. Lopez respected Kambosos’ power as well as the grit

So much of boxing is on the night though.

I remember after Joshua lost to Ruiz Jr, most in here were saying Joshua could NEVER beat Ruiz, Ruiz was just better in every department, too much man. When Ruiz weighed 290lbs they said that would just make Ruiz punch harder and be stronger and Joshua would be anihilated


Many other examples I could list

To me I just saw one guy get it badly wrong on the night and one guy put in the performance of his life. To me Lopez only has to be 10% better to win, and I think he can easily do that.

[Rockybigblower]

I think it's time to change the narrative. Almost every person in every thread about this fight belittles Kambosos. They all make out that it was a Lopez bad night rather than a good Kambosos that caused the upset. Simply not true. Kambosos is a professional fighter that trains to win. And he did because of that. Lopez is not a better fighter than him. Until proven otherwise any speculation is simply that. Lopez is immature and unprofessional and based on his post fight behaviour it seems that's not about to change. Same behaviour equals same outcome. When a fighter loses...talk them down. When they win...praise them up. That's what supporting your sport does. Lopez is done.

[deathofaclown]

Kambosos is/was very underrated

I was one of the few on here that said he had a style to deal with Lopez as long as he could show he could compete at that level. I wasn’t sure he could but he did.

The problem is people look on boxrec and see his last fights were SD wins, when in fact they were quite clear wins, just he was in his opponents backyard and they tried robbing him. He won nearly every round v Selby. They also look at the fact he hasn’t got a huge profile like others and comes from Australia which hasn’t got a huge boxing heritage, so they think he’s just some bum mandatory challenger from overseas.

The thing is with undefeated fighters without any great wins is you never truly know how good they are until they step up. Often we find out they’re not that good, but once in a while you get a guy that really is excellent but been flying under the radar.

That performance was no fluke, every aspect of it was cleverly planned and carried out with excellent ability and IQ.

That version of Kambosos gives anyone at 135 problems.

[TheUptownKid]

So much of boxing is on the night though.

I remember after Joshua lost to Ruiz Jr, most in here were saying Joshua could NEVER beat Ruiz, Ruiz was just better in every department, too much man. When Ruiz weighed 290lbs they said that would just make Ruiz punch harder and be stronger and Joshua would be anihilated


Many other examples I could list

To me I just saw one guy get it badly wrong on the night and one guy put in the performance of his life. To me Lopez only has to be 10% better to win, and I think he can easily do that.

This is right. Teo was in the ring with a shyt gameplan and made no adjustments. He’s the far far bigger man who ever punched behind a consistent jab and couldn’t keep his hands up all night. Simple tweaks would make the night easier for him. I would say George caught Teo on a great night, can’t take the win away from him but I don’t think George is better than Teo, no way.

[TheUptownKid]

Kambosos is/was very underrated

I was one of the few on here that said he had a style to deal with Lopez as long as he could show he could compete at that level. I wasn’t sure he could but he did.

The problem is people look on boxrec and see his last fights were SD wins, when in fact they were quite clear wins, just he was in his opponents backyard and they tried robbing him. He won nearly every round v Selby. They also look at the fact he hasn’t got a huge profile like others and comes from Australia which hasn’t got a huge boxing heritage, so they think he’s just some bum mandatory challenger from overseas.

The thing is with undefeated fighters without any great wins is you never truly know how good they are until they step up. Often we find out they’re not that good, but once in a while you get a guy that really is excellent but been flying under the radar.

That performance was no fluke, every aspect of it was cleverly planned and carried out with excellent ability and IQ.

That version of Kambosos gives anyone at 135 problems.

George is certainly game and he has the benefit of being a true professional pugilist. In the gym often, wily, undaunted, sharpened iron in the ring. Issue with George is he only has so much talent. He’s made the most of that talent for certain, but he remains a small lightweight with middling power and not the fastest hands. He will maximize every particle of his ability when in the ring, but he’s not gonna be a different person. We’ll see what the future holds.

[Rockybigblower]

So much of boxing is on the night though.

I remember after Joshua lost to Ruiz Jr, most in here were saying Joshua could NEVER beat Ruiz, Ruiz was just better in every department, too much man. When Ruiz weighed 290lbs they said that would just make Ruiz punch harder and be stronger and Joshua would be anihilated


Many other examples I could list

To me I just saw one guy get it badly wrong on the night and one guy put in the performance of his life. To me Lopez only has to be 10% better to win, and I think he can easily do that.

From what I recall...when he weighed 290 pounds....people said he was a flat slob who had been eating through his lottery ticket money instead of training. All Joshua had to do all night was run and Andy was never going to catch him. That fight wasn't Joshua making a huge revenge statement ala Lennox vs Rahman 2. Joshua has since proven to be the fighter he was in Ruiz 1....a guy who has fundamentals but no real courage under fire. Lopez has been shown to be exactly that. When faced with his first adversity...he didn't know how to fight back.

[kafkod]

At 135 Kambosos will always have the edge. Teo has outgrown LW. That was the only rational thing his father said after the fight!