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POLL: IF Fury beats Whyte, Usyk and Joshua
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Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
You have to really give the ALL TIME part consideration.
Who else, outside of this era, could Fury, AJ, Whyte (hahahaha) beat ?!?!?
Tua would kill them all for Christ's sake.
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Originally posted by Citizen Koba View PostYes. Anyone who beats Dillian Whyte is automatically a top 10 ATG in my book. Forget about the Cruiserweight and the guy who lost to Fat Andy.
..More seriously I don't really deal in subjective tosh like 'ATG'. Let the boxing historians of the future argue over that nonsense when all those fighting today are well retired and we can get a more objective perspective on the full careers of not just the fighter in question but the complete picture on their opponents too. Too many biases at play - in both directions - to make a sober appraisal of any any active fighter relative to past greats.
By my estimation Fury is the best Heavyweight right now however and if he can beat Usyk, Joshua and Whyte and a coupla other mid top 10 dudes then I'd probably put him above Wlad which is pretty good going, but how many people got Wlad in their top 5 all time?
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He would be undoubtedly the best of this era but to put him next to Joe Louis , Muhammad Ali and Lennox Lewis ....I don’t think so
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Originally posted by Citizen Koba View PostYes. Anyone who beats Dillian Whyte is automatically a top 10 ATG in my book. Forget about the Cruiserweight and the guy who lost to Fat Andy.
..More seriously I don't really deal in subjective tosh like 'ATG'. Let the boxing historians of the future argue over that nonsense when all those fighting today are well retired and we can get a more objective perspective on the full careers of not just the fighter in question but the complete picture on their opponents too. Too many biases at play - in both directions - to make a sober appraisal of any any active fighter relative to past greats.
By my estimation Fury is the best Heavyweight right now however and if he can beat Usyk, Joshua and Whyte and a coupla other mid top 10 dudes then I'd probably put him above Wlad which is pretty good going, but how many people got Wlad in their top 5 all time?
Screenshot_20211023-103952.pngLast edited by Pigeons; 10-23-2021, 10:42 AM.
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Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
"Boxing historians that argue over that nonsense" released an updated list in 2019. They have Wlad #18 and Vitali #19. https://www.ibroresearch.com/ibro-al...-ratings-2019/
Screenshot_20211023-103952.pngLast edited by elfag; 10-23-2021, 10:51 AM.
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Originally posted by elfag View Post
those people are reetards and always hype up the older eras. They rated dempsey and johnson as p4p higher than mayweather and pacquaio... based on what. that is such a joke. Those are clowns like that burt sugar guy always blowing up jack dempseys ass all the time. most of the boxers those guys fought in that era had day jobs at the factory. How is that indicative of more skill than running up through multiple weight classes of larger men. May and Pac ran up through multiple weight classes and dominated larger men who had the resources to fight full time and have dedicated fight camps with a team of experts behind them. Dempsey and Johnson were fighting farmers, plumbers and factory workers who basically trained themselves.
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