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Lets be real. The only reason the Fury/Wilder fight was exciting is because Wilder has zero defense.

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  • Lets be real. The only reason the Fury/Wilder fight was exciting is because Wilder has zero defense.

    First I just want to give appreciation to Wilder for showing tons of guts but the fact of the matter is, he's not a true boxer.

    He's just a really athletic person who's been gifted with enormous punching power. But he knows no defense. He doesn't know how to clinch. He doesn't know how to counter punch. He doesn't know how to slip or dodge a punch. Look at his resume. A lot of his KO's were against B level boxers with the only exception of Luis Ortiz who was at the time recognized as the biggest threat in the HW division.

    Wilder throws wide ass hail mary punches similarly to what you would see in a street fight compilation video.

    Defense is the best offense and Wilder has none of it. The only reason Wilder beats Joshua is because Joshua is too much of a coward to take any risks in his fights.
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  • #2
    That’s true no arguing that.

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    • #3
      He gets outbox by these B level guys for 5 6 rounds than BOOM... it's over. I think he could do it to some of the top guys , not named Fury. Hell, he almost got Fury. He's always dangerous, yet his skills are lacking big time

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      • #4
        Yes absolutely. Also Fury not being at his best made him vulnerable. It reminded me of the Ali vs Frazier 3rd fight. Neither guy was at their best but that's what made it exciting.

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        • #5
          So pretty much Mexican style.
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          • #6
            Agree.

            I'd dispute your assessment of Ortiz though. It seems to me that he was very carefully managed solely to be fed to Wilder.

            Which leaves no-one credible on his CV. He was an amazing promotion job to get a US heavyweight champion.

            And I don't think he beats Joshua. Well, puncher's chance and all that.

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            • #7
              He's the HW version of Julian Jackson when it comes to ''defense''. JJ was a much better boxer/puncher.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by crazyboy867 View Post

                He's just a really athletic person who's been gifted with enormous punching power. But he knows no defense. He doesn't know how to clinch. He doesn't know how to counter punch. He doesn't know how to slip or dodge a punch. Look at his resume. A lot of his KO's were against B level boxers with the only exception of Luis Ortiz who was at the time recognized as the biggest threat in the HW division.

                Wilder throws wide ass hail mary punches similarly to what you would see in a street fight compilation video.
                So basically you're telling us that you could just pull any hard-hitting street thug out of a bad neighborhood, some guy like a Kimbo Slice who was known for knocking out bullies, put gloves on his fists and he can accomplish everything that Deontay Wilder did.

                In 3 fights against Tyson Fury, the #1 Heavyweight on the planet, Deontay landed 177 punches and knocked him down 4 times.

                If Deontay is nothing more than a bum with no skills and a wild punch, then what does it say about Fury if he was almost knocked out by him?

                Think about it. If what you're saying is true, then Tyson Fury can't really be a good fighter. Either you're wrong, or Tyson Fury is a fraud. Which one is it?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ThatDude44 View Post
                  So pretty much Mexican style.
                  Yea because Ricardo Lopez, MAB, Marquez, Morales, Canelo etc never had skill like Wilder.

                  Naw that’s the eastern euro style or black man style run or fight like caveman. That’s all you guys think GGg or charlo and wilder.
                  Last edited by Gypshot; 10-15-2021, 01:28 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SN!PER View Post

                    So basically you're telling us that you could just pull any hard-hitting street thug out of a bad neighborhood, some guy like a Kimbo Slice who was known for knocking out bullies, put gloves on his fists and he can accomplish everything that Deontay Wilder did.

                    In 3 fights against Tyson Fury, the #1 Heavyweight on the planet, Deontay landed 177 punches and knocked him down 4 times.

                    If Deontay is nothing more than a bum with no skills and a wild punch, then what does it say about Fury if he was almost knocked out by him?

                    Think about it. If what you're saying is true, then Tyson Fury can't really be a good fighter. Either you're wrong, or Tyson Fury is a fraud. Which one is it?
                    While not just anyone can step in and become a champ....You can't deny that Wilder is basically a barroom brawler the way he carries on in the ring. Has there ever been a moment in a fight when he out boxed a guy ?

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