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  • #61
    Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

    When you say you "think" the current p4p designation belongs to Canelo (with which I agree) you prove the point that's it is all about opinion. In my opinion a 277 pound version of Canelo would be an unbeatable monster at heavyweight.
    It's definitely all about opinion!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by denium View Post

      Speculation. Fury is ranked #1
      No he isn’t. There is still another champion who he hasn’t fought in his own division. How is he ranked number 1? If you think defeating Deontay Wilder makes him number one then you don’t understand the sport. CHAMPIONS ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DEFEAT THE OTHERS WHO HAVE THEIR OWN CLAIM TO THE TOP SPOT BEFORE CLAIMING SUPREMACY. Deontay Wilder is not a highly skilled heavyweight. Beating him doesn’t prove a lot.
      Last edited by peplz; 10-14-2021, 11:55 AM.

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      • #63
        P4P lists are for fun and banter. There is no one end-all, be-all list that stands as the authority. Yes, they are opinion based, and often very biased, but some opinions carry more weight than others. A casual fan might think Mike Tyson was the greatest HW who ever lived, or that even one loss should knock you down a few notches under an undefeated fighter. Not taking into account quality of opposition, fighting opponents at their best, or the fighter himself being at his best.

        I still count Lennox Lewis as the greatest British HW champion of all time, and I don't see Fury topping him regardless of who he defeats going forward. Fury is nowhere near the greatest HW of all time, and most HW's don't belong in the P4P discussion IMHO.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Vlad_ View Post
          Where did Loma touch you?


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          The only thing that touched him is Clenelos ball sack on his forehead ...
          Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 10-14-2021, 12:05 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by peplz View Post

            No he isn’t. There is still another champion who he hasn’t fought in his own division. How is he ranked number 1? If you think defeating Deontay Wilder makes him number one then you don’t understand the sport. CHAMPIONS ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DEFEAT THE OTHERS WHO HAVE THEIR OWN CLAIM TO THE TOP SPOT BEFORE CLAIMING SUPREMACY. Deontay Wilder is not a highly skilled heavyweight. Beating him doesn’t prove a lot.
            Fury is ranked #1 by Ring, TBRB, Boxrec, ESPN, CBS and any other list you can find.

            If you don't agree, fine, but the people who matter, do.

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            • #66
              P4P lists are about as relevant as articles about P4P lists.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                Your P4P no1 the craziest poster on here.
                Thanks, but i take it you've never met juggernaut666 ?
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by denium View Post

                  Fury is ranked #1 by Ring, TBRB, Boxrec, ESPN, CBS and any other list you can find.

                  If you don't agree, fine, but the people who matter, do.
                  Either you’re really confused or you are completely fabricating this. Tyson Fury is the WBC world heavyweight champion. By that fact alone its IMPOSSIBLE for him to be ranked. World champions don’t have ranking. Contenders have ranking. Magazines, websites, and television networks don’t have a say in official rankings.
                  Last edited by peplz; 10-14-2021, 12:41 PM.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by peplz View Post
                    Either you’re really confused or you are completely fabricating this. Tyson Fury is the WBC world heavyweight champion. By that fact alone its IMPOSSIBLE for him to be ranked. World champions don’t have ranking. Contenders have ranking. Magazines, websites, and television networks don’t have a say in official rankings.
                    ABC rankings mean absolutely f*** all, the WBA have Hughie Fury as #4, is he a top 10 HW boxer? No.

                    Fury is the consensus top HW in the world.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by denium View Post

                      ABC rankings mean absolutely f*** all, the WBA have Hughie Fury as #4, is he a top 10 HW boxer? No.

                      Fury is the consensus top HW in the world.
                      Okay you live in an alternate reality obviously. Nice visiting.
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