Mike Tyson calls Fury and WIlder ATGs

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Joshua was a unified champion, multiple title defenses against top guys . Fury has made just one title defense against a guy he already defeated twice before . Do the math .

Surprised you’re still alive after the AJ loss.

Ajagba getting schooled too.

Ouch…

[Mitchell Kane]

Name a significant heavyweight fury put away minus wilder

He’s had two fights at his current weight/style under SugarHill Steward.

Which have led to 2 stoppages over a previously undefeated heavyweight.

Maybe we should wait and see how he progresses before making declarative statements on this version of Fury.

[Mitchell Kane]

I don't rank him above them because his level of competition was awful. Stiverne, Arreola, Breazele are all B or C level fighters. His best win was Ortiz, and if you look at Ortiz' resume, he has beaten absolutely no one worth mentioning.

So you were impressed by Seldon beating Joe Hipp and Tony Tucker?

Or was it Seldon lasting less than 2 minutes against Bowe and Tyson that cements his status above Wilder?

[Mitchell Kane]

You need to rewatch briggs and Wilson especially the last round ..Wilson was extremely accurate and it was an accumulation of punches right on the buttons over and over then a huge accurate left hook again on the button

Darroll Wilson landed some clean punches.

But it wasn’t that many that they should have put Briggs away so quickly/easily … and Wilson wasn’t a big heavyweight or a heavy puncher.

[BangEM]

What? You don't like Mike now man?

Mike Tyson was overrated as a boxer and insecure as an old man.

[LoadedWraps]

Name a significant heavyweight fury put away minus wilder

There are 3, 4 names tops in this era, and leading up to it, who can be considered "significant".

Wlad, future HOFer and ATG: thoroughly outboxed
Wilder, one of the hardest punchers in the sport: stopped and outboxes
Povetkin: didn't fight
Fury: the fighter in question
AJ: not faced
Usyk: just won the belts, and unrealistic to expect Fury to fight someone who just moved up, as a champ


AJ many would argue isn't even a top fighter in this era.
Usyk, I was calling him the next Holyfield when he moved up. I believe hes the real deal and would he a big win for Fury.

So you want to talk about "significant" names? The most significant name he could have possibly faced is Wlad, and he schooled him. Sit down and try again, Fury has beaten everyone in front of him and has been ducked himself far more than he has ever avoided anyone else. He really hasn't.

Fury is the man at HW, and will continue to be so. Cope.

[Mitchell Kane]

There are 3, 4 names tops in this era, and leading up to it, who can be considered "significant".

Wlad, future HOFer and ATG: thoroughly outboxed
Wilder, one of the hardest punchers in the sport: stopped and outboxes
Povetkin: didn't fight
Fury: the fighter in question
AJ: not faced
Usyk: just won the belts, and unrealistic to expect Fury to fight someone who just moved up, as a champ


AJ many would argue isn't even a top fighter in this era.
Usyk, I was calling him the next Holyfield when he moved up. I believe hes the real deal and would he a big win for Fury.

So you want to talk about "significant" names? The most significant name he could have possibly faced is Wlad, and he schooled him. Sit down and try again, Fury has beaten everyone in front of him and has been ducked himself far more than he has ever avoided anyone else. He really hasn't.

Fury is the man at HW, and will continue to be so. Cope.

If Usyk fights/beats Joshua a second time, then a win over Usuk would arguably be as big or bigger than Fury’s win over Wilder.

To put Usyk in the context of Holyfield … Holyfield moved up to heavyweight in July ‘88 … was supposed to fight Tyson in June ‘90 …. and by October ‘90 had beaten Douglas.

So we’re talking like 23 months since moving up when he was supposed to fight Tyson … and 25 months from moving up to being undisputed.

In terms of months/years, that’s very similar to timeline of Usyk moving up to fight Witherspoon October ‘19, and by September ‘21 beating Joshua.

Assuming Usyk-Joshua II happens next year, Fury-Usyk could happen sometime later in ‘22 or ‘23.

That’s plenty of time between moving up and fighting Fury.

[Stuntman Mike]

He’s had two fights at his current weight/style under SugarHill Steward.

Which have led to 2 stoppages over a previously undefeated heavyweight.

Maybe we should wait and see how he progresses before making declarative statements on this version of Fury.

Version of Fury.. he's the same guy he is just vastly more experienced than wilder as he started boxing at a young age and has always been around boxing...
wilder started late and couldn't box for ****...he excelled for a late starter even making his way through all the tomato cans and being gifted a belt its still a nice life accomplishment and the money too

But they build these fighters up and claim the best Ever in whatever department to sell tickets

you can't run around claiming there's different versions of fighters unless they're past prime or prime

Fury is prime he won't get any better and hasn't gotten any better since the wladimir fight if anything he's got a lot slower

Wilder just isn't that good

[Mitchell Kane]

Version of Fury.. he's the same guy he is just vastly more experienced than wilder as he started boxing at a young age and has always been around boxing...
wilder started late and couldn't box for ****...he excelled for a late starter even making his way through all the tomato cans and being gifted a belt its still a nice life accomplishment and the money too

But they build these fighters up and claim the best Ever in whatever department to sell tickets

you can't run around claiming there's different versions of fighters unless they're past prime or prime

Fury is prime he won't get any better and hasn't gotten any better since the wladimir fight if anything he's got a lot slower

Wilder just isn't that good

To say theres inly versions of fighters prime and past prime is lazy.

Lewis, Wladimir, Fury … there before/after versions with each from when they started working with Steward’s (Manny, SugarHill).

[Stuntman Mike]

There are 3, 4 names tops in this era, and leading up to it, who can be considered "significant".

Wlad, future HOFer and ATG: thoroughly outboxed
Wilder, one of the hardest punchers in the sport: stopped and outboxes
Povetkin: didn't fight
Fury: the fighter in question
AJ: not faced
Usyk: just won the belts, and unrealistic to expect Fury to fight someone who just moved up, as a champ


AJ many would argue isn't even a top fighter in this era.
Usyk, I was calling him the next Holyfield when he moved up. I believe hes the real deal and would he a big win for Fury.

So you want to talk about "significant" names? The most significant name he could have possibly faced is Wlad, and he schooled him. Sit down and try again, Fury has beaten everyone in front of him and has been ducked himself far more than he has ever avoided anyone else. He really hasn't.

Fury is the man at HW, and will continue to be so. Cope.

Hahaha wow look at all you wrote down...I said what significant name has fury put away as in stopped

Replying to Mitchell kane because he asked what other significant heavyweights Wilson stopped after stopping briggs....

There's no need for you to join a conversation without realising what's actually going on


Anyways replying to you now...did you see wladimir against jennings? The fight wlad had just prior to fury

Wladimir looked shot to bits against a D level heavyweight..relexes were gone ,legs were slow and he struggled to let his hands go against byrant jennings ....wladimir was not the fighter he used to be


And fury hardly ripped the title from wlad it was a glorified game of tag...nothing significant,fury had an aged old man in there breathing out his ass and couldn't even hurt him