There's no way Joshua could have taken that punishment

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I think we still need to see AJ in with Fury and Wilder it will be a shame if not.

I think they should have chilled their t.its with the Usyk rematch. He was well outclassed in the end. I've no interest in it - how many people are really?

Would have been nice to have Fury and Usyk next. Especially with Usyk on the Crest of a wave.

All you guys said the same thing with Ruiz .

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All you guys said the same thing with Ruiz .

I definitely didnt. Always thought AJ essentially was wiped out with one big shot vs Ruiz the temple shot. The beat down after that always seemed a bit academic to me because AJ looked like he was on his way to routine stoppage win before and then after...well he might as well have been sparked out. I do actually remember him having a decent round after it as well which if anything was damning for Ruiz because AJ was in the ring but his brain was in Jupiter.

Outside of round 5 and 6 I think it was there is nothing to hang your hat on for AJ in the rematch but it's a funny old game.

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When Wilder gets hurt his legs stiffen up

He was exhausted and hurt for a lot of that fight, but he has a REMARKABLE ability to stay upright, even when hurt.

Respect to him.

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This roughly, although I ain't sure Joshua's that much bigger or stronger than the latest iteration of Wilder. Point is he's defensively a far more responsible fighter and wouldn't be giving Fury so many opportunites to maul him. In fact I'd suspect it'd look a great deal more like Fury vs Klitschko than Fury vs Wilder. Wilder's greatest strength and greatest weakness are all wrapped up around that dependence on the right and his entire gameplan inevitably revolves around it which also leaves him supremely vulnerable to anyway who is able to neutralise it. Joshua may not be supreme at anything but as an all round boxer he's far better schooled than Wilder.

I think it would look more like Joshua vs Klitschko, except that Fury will maul AJ more. He's a very large man and uses that size well.

He's also very crafty at punching effectively on the inside during clinches. Joshua has a crap inside game.

[El_Mero]

And still been standing after 11 rounds.

He doesn't have that dog in him.

Youre mos def correct. He looked scared gettin punched by Usyk

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I definitely didnt. Always thought AJ essentially was wiped out with one big shot vs Ruiz the temple shot. The beat down after that always seemed a bit academic to me because AJ looked like he was on his way to routine stoppage win before and then after...well he might as well have been sparked out. I do actually remember him having a decent round after it as well which if anything was damning for Ruiz because AJ was in the ring but his brain was in Jupiter.

Outside of round 5 and 6 I think it was there is nothing to hang your hat on for AJ in the rematch but it's a funny old game.

A.J won every round in the rematch and it was a style he adjusted to what makes you think he’s not going to win against Usyk when he did win 5 rounds in that fight ? The arguments that he should avoid Usyk is as silly as the Ruiz ones .

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This roughly, although I ain't sure Joshua's that much bigger or stronger than the latest iteration of Wilder. Point is he's defensively a far more responsible fighter and wouldn't be giving Fury so many opportunites to maul him. In fact I'd suspect it'd look a great deal more like Fury vs Klitschko than Fury vs Wilder. Wilder's greatest strength and greatest weakness are all wrapped up around that dependence on the right and his entire gameplan inevitably revolves around it which also leaves him supremely vulnerable to anyway who is able to neutralise it. Joshua may not be supreme at anything but as an all round boxer he's far better schooled than Wilder.

It would be mainly Fury out boxing Joshua. I don't think Wilder adding all this weight made him much stronger. Wilder is naturally a smaller HW with dynamite in his hands. Joshua is bigger and stronger period.

Joshua's shot in this fight would be going for it and committing to his punches but I don't know if he will fight with that style. He may just try to sit back and box with Fury and he's not winning that battle. Still would love to see this fight though.

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A.J won every round in the rematch and it was a style he adjusted to what makes you think he’s not going to win against Usyk when he did win 5 rounds in that fight ? The arguments that he should avoid Usyk is as silly as the Ruiz ones .

**** man....5 rounds?

We didnt see the same fight at all.

But I'm interested in your take because the fight is happening so I'm open to someone convincing me why it might be different because it does seem like you wont go down the he can 'put it on him' route. Which he is obviously never going to do. I cant get excited about it because what I saw was AJ being outboxed early, making a brilliant in fight adjustment himself to be fair, and then getting buried late and exhausted just like all Usyk's opponents.

The only thing I can see that might be different is just stepping right into shots like Dillian Whyte said actually. AJ was that concerned of being countered he seemed to basically neutralise himself at times

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The reason Tyson could maul Deontay is because Wilder has no balance or footwork. Tyson could rush him and knew little could come back because of this.

AJ on the other hand is a much more refined, particularly his balance and counters. He has shots like a check left hook and counter right which would mean rushing him would be more difficult. Although he does seem to cover up to combinations now since Ruiz. So, anyway it would be a completely different fight. Wilder was a sitting duck because he simply can't box.

Re. Wilder v AJ, AJ punches much harder than Fury, I wouldn't like to see what happens if the fight went past two rounds... Wilders best chance would be early, but his stamina would make AJ a serious favourite. AJ would just box smart for two rounds like he does now and then have Wilder falling apart himself.

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Wilder has remarkable will power. It does seem like Fury also can take a smashing and keep in the fight. While I assume AJ is less willful I do like to look at history and what it tells us. Lennox Lewis seemed soft to many. He got starched and never seemed to have that extra gear. Yet when he fough Vitalie, Lewis (and Vitalie) showed some remarkable will power. Keeping in mind that Vitalie also was considered "soft" quitting on his stool against Byrd. Yet Vitalie and Lewis put on a real show regarding resolve... so you never know lol.

AJ might be "Fernando" you know the quiet docile bull who one day gets stung by a bee... and becomes the most viscious bull... Lol. Im kidding.