There's no way Joshua could have taken that punishment

[kafkod]

*** No! He lost to a last minute replacement fat b@stard then to a cruiserweight. Are u dense???

They probably would both beat Wilder.

[deathofaclown]

I don't think Joshua would be taking that type of punishment in the first place from Fury. Joshua has the size and strength to hold Fury off of him in the clinch. More like he would just be getting out boxed for majority of the rounds.

But yes, Wilder clearly has an ATG heart. He's a stubborn stubborn man and is willing to die in the ring. No shame in saying that Joshua does not have THAT in him.

When has AJ showed size and strength in clinches? He never has. It’s not about size, it’s about skill, there’s an art to clinching. AJ never learned it.

Dave Allen said when he sparred Joshua, it’s extremely easy to manoeuvre him around the ring in a clinch.

[KTFOKING]

When has AJ showed size and strength in clinches? He never has. It’s not about size, it’s about skill, there’s an art to clinching. AJ never learned it.

Dave Allen said when he sparred Joshua, it’s extremely easy to manoeuvre him around the ring in a clinch.

Those are two different things though, no? You are saying when AJ shown he can use his size in the clinch....He has not, and did not vs Usyk. What I'm saying is he has the size and strength to hold Fury off of him. I don't see Fury trying to lean on him the same way he did against the much smaller Wilder. Joshua should be able to push him off of him but Fury certainly has the advantage on the inside.

[deathofaclown]

Those are two different things though, no? You are saying when AJ shown he can use his size in the clinch....He has not, and did not vs Usyk. What I'm saying is he has the size and strength to hold Fury off of him. I don't see Fury trying to lean on him the same way he did against the much smaller Wilder. Joshua should be able to push him off of him but Fury certainly has the advantage on the inside.

You can’t just push or hold people off, it’s not that simple, you have to know how to get the correct arm placement and frames to be able to push someone off, especially a bigger man. There’s a skill to it. AJ isn’t that physically strong, he’s a pumped up bodybuilder, he was in the 220’s early in his career. Fury is a naturally much bigger man with more natural core strength.

That’s why AJ can’t just big man people, his natural frame isn’t that big, he’s tall but frame is different. If he stopped going for the body builder look, he would likely be a tall and quite thin looking guy.

Fury could big man AJ if he wanted and he could do nothing about it.

[KTFOKING]

You can’t just push or hold people off, it’s not that simple, you have to know how to get the correct arm placement and frames to be able to push someone off, especially a bigger man. There’s a skill to it. AJ isn’t that physically strong, he’s a pumped up bodybuilder, he was in the 220’s early in his career. Fury is a naturally much bigger man with more natural core strength.

That’s why AJ can’t just big man people, his natural frame isn’t that big, he’s tall but frame is different. If he stopped going for the body builder look, he would likely be a tall and quite thin looking guy.

Fury could big man AJ if he wanted and he could do nothing about it.

Of course it is not that simple. That's why someone like Floyd who was smaller than most of the WWs he faced always controlled the clinch and was able to dictate how it went up close. However, physical strength DOES matter in the clinch. Fury will not be able to do what he did vs Wilder against AJ. When he leaned on Wilder and pushed his head down time after time? That's not happening vs AJ.

[deathofaclown]

Of course it is not that simple. That's why someone like Floyd who was smaller than most of the WWs he faced always controlled the clinch and was able to dictate how it went up close. However, physical strength DOES matter in the clinch. Fury will not be able to do what he did vs Wilder against AJ. When he leaned on Wilder and pushed his head down time after time? That's not happening vs AJ.

He would. AJ is a big hollow bodybuilder. Hasn’t got real natural strength. Fury could maul him and AJ wouldn’t have the natural strength or stamina to do anything about it.

[Noelanthony]

And still been standing after 11 rounds.

He doesn't have that dog in him.

AND?? I don't think many heavyweights can just stand there and get hit continuously with full blown shots and keep standing . USYK couldn't and AJ couldn't i wont get into the argument would they allow themselves to be in that situation after 3 rounds. In any case that further proves my point that Fury doesn't hit that hard. As great as he is, he just doesn't. Wilder's head was being pummelled yet most of the time he went down was from sheer exhaustion. You think if AJ was hitting him continuously the way TYSON was that Wilder would be getting up each time?....... yes yes AJ could never do that to Wilder i hear you

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Sad to see AJ fans act as though he was the one who beat Wilder this weekend when it was actually Fury.

[Noelanthony]

I don't think Joshua would be taking that type of punishment in the first place from Fury. Joshua has the size and strength to hold Fury off of him in the clinch. More like he would just be getting out boxed for majority of the rounds.

But yes, Wilder clearly has an ATG heart. He's a stubborn stubborn man and is willing to die in the ring. No shame in saying that Joshua does not have THAT in him.

Well said...

[REDEEMER]

Fury would t last with A.J for 11 rounds he can actually react to jabbers and can box and wouldn’t be getting hit with half the stuff Wilder was .

The winner would be decided by probably round 7 or 8 and A.J wouldn’t get bullied like Wilder does ,he’s a proper 240/245 pound boxer / puncher . Wilder has terrible balance we all know that he would lose just on that .