The more I see Plant the more I think he probably outboxes Canelo

[NC Uppercut]

I think its gone from Canelo struggling vs movers/slicksters being a touch overplayed too him being overrated vs them. Maybe not overrated but given the benefit of the doubt a bit too much.

Plant is a better boxer from a technical standpoint at least, than BJS for example. BJS to me talented sure but for me he never really translated well to the pros despite achieving a fair amount. He is one of those that is very very good for the first four rounds after that he just losses the snap on his shots, looks laboured and just looks like your average run-of-the-mill southpaw. Double jab, double jab, double jab left hand zzz
Basic.

BJS appears slicker because he bends at the waist a lot, a bit more herky-jerky and fights with a bit more ''swag'' but I don't think he's as slick, as polished or fundamentally sound as Plant just more cagey/jittery,
I'm not sure he is athletic either maybe on par for 4 or so rounds. That isn't to say I am 100% sold on Plants stamina I did think he faded in a few of his earlier fights notably against Uzcategui.
The more I see Plant he more I am impressed. I think there are a lot of unknowns/questions but the more I see him the more he reminds me of Andre Ward, SMW Ward minus the inside fighting & roughhouse tactics. Not the visibly slower, less sharp LHW version. I don't think SMW Ward gets the credit he deserved, he was a beast at that weight.

That is no gimme or easy fight for Canelo.

Toughest fight for Canelo since Lara imo and I think he is actually a tougher fight than Beterbiev and Benavidez. They would try walk him down, you don't pressure a Mexican counter-puncher. Its like Marquez you go too him he will light your ass up.
You box him, you make him lead and that is Plants MO.

Plant has the tools to win this, skillwise, stylistically. He does a lot of what recent opposition have done well vs Canelo but better.
He has a faster, sharper jab than GGG. He has the versatility and feints GGG lacks. The athleticism and defensive footwork to get back out of range with better glove positioning and reflexes.
GGG just has a power jab. Just a hard thudding jab he really commits too, he steps in very hard with it. Plant can hook off the jab. He has a good stab-jab, sets it up well fakes it and will walk you onto the check hook and tie you up, classic Floyd. Constantly feinting with purpose now like these mimickers out there, these endless amount of copycats that are doing certain moves with no real purpose behind them.
He's a good boxer, very educated lead hand. He might have the most educated left hand lead in boxing right now.

I have Plant outboxing him. 116-112 type fight

I'll go a step further and say I don't think Canelo has any real advantages apart from power, experience and probably the chin. Fundamentals, skills, Plant all day. He's a better boxer than Canelo, period.
TLDR

I believe you hit the nail on the head! Caleb might have Nelo’s # for sure!

[kushking]

are plant’s chances that slim

Floyd is tiny and 12-0’d Alvarez

Plant just has to win 7 rounds and see the final bell

*Current not weight drained Canelo

Plant throws terrible right handed punches,he won't be able to keep Canelo from cutting him up with 300 razor counters to head & body,I think this will look a bit like beefy Smith 2.0(but with more durable Plant) I wish the line wasn't -1000(bovada gots a bs line where a win for Plant is only +550 but Canelo is -1000,thats some bs)

[QballLobo]

Happens before every Canelo fight. People have hopes and dreams of Canelo taking an L and see what they want to see.
Plant isn’t that guy. He’s softer than BJS, who talked about dying in the ring then got his face broken and quit on his stool.
Canelo will take a round or two to get his timing down then unload with body counters, walk him down, and be the first Mexican fighter to be undisputed at 168.

[_Rexy_]

I fail too see why its sooo rediculous to say Canelos head movement/defense is the best in the game right now (for a non lara-esque fighter especially,as Laras defense doesn't matter considering his shtty offense)

So he's the best defensive fighter in the game as long as we don't count slick or defensive fighters?


Okay.

[-Kev-]

Power in boxing is both underrated by some and overrated by some.

You can't punch like Malignaggi or Algieri and expect to win with supposedly "superior" boxing skills. Malignaggi is actually a highly skilled boxer, he is very good. But he just can't punch to save his life. This was his downfall. He could not beat any elites, and struggled with B fighters. Algieri, same issue. Highly skilled boxer, very talented. But Spence, Pacquiao and Khan...Khan of all people, did not respect his power, so his "skills" were almost null in those fights. I did think he did okay vs Khan though. But Khan was not concerned with his power.

First, Canelo is a great boxer. He knows a thing or two about defense. I mean the guy is paper white and always seems to have a clean face after tough fights. Canelo has power. Plant has a tad more power than guys like Aligieri or Malignaggi, but just not enough to make a difference in a fight. Canelo has fight-changing power. Canelo can afford Plant to take the first 3-4 rounds, and then pick it up and possibly drop or KO him in the 3-4 rounds.

Canelo is a two-way boxer. He can brawl if he wants, he can box if he wants. Plant has no choice but to try to outbox Canelo, stay away, distance himself. He absolutely can't trade shots. He can't be cornered. He can't go to the ropes. He has to keep moving for every second of every round, for 12 rounds. If Canelo decides to go to the body to stop that...then what? What will Plant do? Be a sitting duck, that's what.

[-Kev-]

So he's the best defensive fighter in the game as long as we don't count slick or defensive fighters?


Okay.

I am not sure why Trout was left out of the defensive choices by that poster, but slick ol' Trout made Canelo look like Pernell Whitaker with his silly misses. It was quite amusing to see, the guy that Canelo was accused of ducking because he's a "slick" fighter, actually looked offensively awful vs Canelo's elusiveness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Zh_2kUv9k

[kushking]

So he's the best defensive fighter in the game as long as we don't count slick or defensive fighters?


Okay.

Why is it hard to understand that out of the fighters who actually fight & don't just stink up the joint like Rigo hes the best defensively?(&that makes his defense better than even those guys all things considered,ie more effective,& fighters who aren't spoilers like Lara/Rigo will never have the same defense because they actually fight) ( show me where Lara has highlight reels like these,& I would love to see highlight reels like these for any current fighter,show me a fighter please that slips, dodges & parries punches(offensive or defense minded fighters eligible)

his head movement is by far the best in the game atm.period(his style reminds me at times of baby Mike Tyson)

[PRINCEKOOL]

Not strong enough, not fast enough.

Plant will not win a round, in my opinion.

Plant most likely has marginally better movement, but that is about it.

The fight will be similar to the Billy Saunders fight etc.

[Basco]

You are not going to beat Canelo with defense. You have to be a big puncher with high output volume. If you can't make him gun shy with power and big combinations, you will eventually get caught.

[-Kev-]

No strong enough, no fast enough.

Plant will not win a round, in my opinion.

Plant most likely has marginally better movement, but that is about it.

The fight will be similar to the Billy Saunders fight etc.

Plant will win rounds. But it will be up to Canelo. I envision Canelo playing the patient man routine, like he did vs BJS. It boosted BJS confidence, started showboating, etc. Until one single punch deflated BJS confidence and effectively ended the fight.

Canelo will allow Plant to win rounds, but it is solely strategic. Just Canelo playing mind games. Learning Plant's movements and patterns. Learning about his jab, timing, his power or lack of. Meanwhile viewers will see it as Canelo struggling. Until he decides to finally start fighting, that is when it will all go down south for Plant. Then Canelo's next opponent will see where Plant and BJS were successful and why, and implement it in training. Not knowing that their success was success because Canelo allowed them to have it. He is so ahead of everyone else, a lot of fans don't even understand his game. He looked silly vs Mayweather, but that's Mayweather. Plant will win only the rounds that Canelo allows him to win.