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  • I have no ears
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    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post

    I will stop speaking with you, because you obviously never been in a fight or have zero fighting skills if you don't know you can defend with out moving backward. This pretty much disqualifies the rest of your comment. Let me ask you a question, how am I pretentious for simply having a discussion? Because you felt a moment of inferiority does not make me pretentious. Have a good rest of you web trolling day you fhuking clown.
    You'll stop speaking to me cos you're feelings are hurt, hahaha, what a fkn d1ck, you sounded pretentious because of you're assured tone, when what u said was just utter word diarrhea, intended by yourself to make u seem smart and knowledgeable when in reality it made u sound like a bellend with no boxing acumen in the slightest. Fury made him go backwards through clinching him after exchanges, then using his much bigger weight he moved him back time and again, wilder can't defend that. He can try to not move backwards but it isn't gonna work, that's not how physics works pal, and this is wilder we're talking about, how's he gonna try a bit of fancy footwork to create angles before the clinch when he's a one trick pony, he can't learn that at this advanced stage of his career, and besides that, he doesn't believe he needs to cos he thinks he's got it all figured out already, it's called the dunning Kruger effect and I suspect u have it too, and I would love to see u in a fight the way u p*ssy out of a debate, it would be a sight to behold, we both know u never thrown a punch in your life so stop acting like your sugar hill Steward when you're more like Joshua fabia

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  • KnickTillDeaTh
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    Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

    Of course I'm talking defending backwards, who the f defends forwards u utter pretentious bellend, and last time I checked defense is a huge part of fighting so no, defending backwards and fighting backwards are not two "distinctly" different things, there one and the same, the only chance wilder has, is in the first round, when he isn't gassed from all the leaning fury is gonna do, kudos for tryna make yourself look like your a learned scholar though, too bad it actually made u look like a guy with no fkn clue what day it is
    I will stop speaking with you, because you obviously never been in a fight or have zero fighting skills if you don't know you can defend with out moving backward. This pretty much disqualifies the rest of your comment. Let me ask you a question, how am I pretentious for simply having a discussion? Because you felt a moment of inferiority does not make me pretentious. Have a good rest of you web trolling day you fhuking clown.

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  • BodyBagz
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    TeamFury has been hellbent on delaying this annihilation.

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post

    Wilder actually has a monster jab, he's quick, and he's athletic, plus obviously his power. He hasn't put all of that together in the ring, which is what he will need to do to beat Fury. Head movement, a jab, angles, and clustered punches are not elite skills, they are pretty standard. Yes some fighters are elite with those specific skills, but they at minimum require athleticism and decent reaction. These simple adjustment couple with Wilders knock out power would be enough to win the fight.

    Yes I agree, Fury is sloppy, his foot work is clumpy/clumsy, and he's basically running in half steps. I cringe when ever someone has the audacity to compare Fury to Ali. People are impressed because of "how he moves for a big man". Well he actually doesn't move that well at all when you consider NFL players and NBA players. Having said that, Fury is elite with his upper body movement, and faints, and I would argue that that is more significant to Fury career, than his foot work ever was.

    For the fight, obviously Fury should be favored. The second fight was so one sided that you'd have to be biased not to concede that. However, I'm picking Wilder. It seems to me that he's much more tuned in, and looks to be more focused. For the shear fact it would be one of the biggest comebacks in the history of boxing, and so many people have written Wilder off, it'll be fun watching the break downs on here.
    When I speak of the Riddler Style, that is the style Fury started to use around about 'When he fought Martin Rogan'.

    All of the sudden Fury became a awkward fighter, who was difficult to hit 'But for me? He was still clumsy'. He squares up on the inside, and just in general 'There is always a moment of calamity in his fights'.

    That is why he was decked twice in the first Wilder fight, busted up by Wallin 'And has been there to be hit for a very long time now'.

    I don't think Fury is the same fighter he was before his comeback 'His hardcore fans on here, deep down probably have identified this also'. In some ways he is better, but in other ways 'He is not as good'.

    If Wilder win's the rematch it will be late on in the fight.

    Note: I am not really in anyone's corner for this fight. But out of the big three in the division, I think the defamation of Wilder's character has been over the top 'The closer this fights gets, the more people will be apprehensive of Deontay Wilder'.






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  • I have no ears
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    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post

    You're talking about defending backward, not fighting backward. That's two distinctly different skill sets. As I said there are only a hand full of boxers in the history of boxing that could actually fight while moving back. Wilder doesn't have to defend on the back foot, he doesn't have to fight backward to win. All he needs to do is pump his jab when Fury comes in, head movement and move out on angles to turn Fury around. He does that, it will be a completely different fight.
    Of course I'm talking defending backwards, who the f defends forwards u utter pretentious bellend, and last time I checked defense is a huge part of fighting so no, defending backwards and fighting backwards are not two "distinctly" different things, there one and the same, the only chance wilder has, is in the first round, when he isn't gassed from all the leaning fury is gonna do, kudos for tryna make yourself look like your a learned scholar though, too bad it actually made u look like a guy with no fkn clue what day it is

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  • KnickTillDeaTh
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    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

    Wilder does not have to do anything highly technical to beat Tyson Fury, in my opinion. He just has to survive, and land punches where he can 'And just do some basic things like, Jab and bang to the body'.

    He is not going to be able to dominate Fury in terms of winning rounds. But he can maybe Shake Fury up, and and be a persistent destabilizing presents.

    Wilder does not really have many elite level attributes, but he has two elite level traits.

    1: He is a extremely game, his gameness is off the charts. On his worst night against Fury during the second fight, he was still fighting back until the towel was thrown in 'Fury did not score a legitimate knock-out, Fury has stopped nobody at elite level'.

    2: Second trait he has is his power.

    I honestly believe, if Wilder is to win? He just has to stay in there with a simple game plan. Tyson Fury innately is still a clumsy fighter, people seem to forget that he has spent 80% of his career being clumsy 'A exciting fighter, but he was always being bashed about'. I watched all of his career, for the most part he was deemed as a clumsy yet game and exciting fighter 'Not some sort of technical genius'.

    He is still that fighter somewhere inside, I am not fooled by what the media say or his hardcore fans.

    Tyson Fury has been there to be hit since Wilder I 'He does not want to use his old riddler style anymore, that was larger a bi-product of Peter Fury's training'.

    Tyson Fury has faced Deontay Wilder twice before, but even still 'He is taking a step into the unknown in this third fight'.

    Can he make a successful title defense finally?

    Can he actually win a fight where he is not a underdog? In all of Fury's biggest fights, he always plays this underdog type character.

    There is none of that anymore, people in mass are expecting him to completely destroy Deontay Wilder. The mainstream media, boxing media and even alternative media have all portrayed Deontay Wilder as some sort of joke.

    All the pressure is on Tyson Fury, NOW he is the KING and people are expecting big time.

    Note: I think Tyson Fury will win, but all I am saying is that 'Wilder is still extremely dangerous for multiple reasons, it is not just his power'.
    Wilder actually has a monster jab, he's quick, and he's athletic, plus obviously his power. He hasn't put all of that together in the ring, which is what he will need to do to beat Fury. Head movement, a jab, angles, and clustered punches are not elite skills, they are pretty standard. Yes some fighters are elite with those specific skills, but they at minimum require athleticism and decent reaction. These simple adjustment couple with Wilders knock out power would be enough to win the fight.

    Yes I agree, Fury is sloppy, his foot work is clumpy/clumsy, and he's basically running in half steps. I cringe when ever someone has the audacity to compare Fury to Ali. People are impressed because of "how he moves for a big man". Well he actually doesn't move that well at all when you consider NFL players and NBA players. Having said that, Fury is elite with his upper body movement, and faints, and I would argue that that is more significant to Fury career, than his foot work ever was.

    For the fight, obviously Fury should be favored. The second fight was so one sided that you'd have to be biased not to concede that. However, I'm picking Wilder. It seems to me that he's much more tuned in, and looks to be more focused. For the shear fact it would be one of the biggest comebacks in the history of boxing, and so many people have written Wilder off, it'll be fun watching the break downs on here.
    Last edited by KnickTillDeaTh; 07-24-2021, 09:16 AM.

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  • KnickTillDeaTh
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    Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

    It makes all the sense in the world when in the last fight fury put all his weight on him throughout the contest and literally made him fight off the backfoot, the only time wilder didn't go backwards in the second fight was in the first round
    You're talking about defending backward, not fighting backward. That's two distinctly different skill sets. As I said there are only a hand full of boxers in the history of boxing that could actually fight while moving back. Wilder doesn't have to defend on the back foot, he doesn't have to fight backward to win. All he needs to do is pump his jab when Fury comes in, head movement and move out on angles to turn Fury around. He does that, it will be a completely different fight.

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  • QballLobo
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    Once a guy that relies on power gets that chin cracked once it’s all over. Wilder had little fear as he always had that one punch power to fall back on. After Fury outclassed him in the first fight and dominated him in the second he’ll never get that fearlessness back. He’s mentally weak as shown by all the post fight excuses.
    I have Fury by brutal KO in the 6th.

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post


    This is a regurgitated line that really makes no sense. There are only a hand full of fighters in history who could actually "fight on the back foot" and neither Wilder nor Fury are one of those fighters. Wilder doesn't need to fight moving back to defeat Fury, he needs to move his head, jab to the face and body when Fury comes in, and throw a minimum of 2 punches if he's not pumping the jab. He has to circle Fury and use angles, both for defense and attacking. Whether he can do that is another concern, but Wilder can defeat Fruy with out taking a single step back. Fighting moving back is actually one of the worst things a fighter could do, which is why it takes special talent to even have mediocre success with it.
    Wilder does not have to do anything highly technical to beat Tyson Fury, in my opinion. He just has to survive, and land punches where he can 'And just do some basic things like, Jab and bang to the body'.

    He is not going to be able to dominate Fury in terms of winning rounds. But he can maybe Shake Fury up, and and be a persistent destabilizing presence.

    Wilder does not really have many elite level attributes, but he has two elite level traits.

    1: He is a extremely game, his gameness is off the charts. On his worst night against Fury during the second fight, he was still fighting back until the towel was thrown in 'Fury did not score a legitimate knock-out, Fury has stopped nobody at elite level'.

    2: Second trait he has is his power.

    I honestly believe, if Wilder is to win? He just has to stay in there with a simple game plan. Tyson Fury innately is still a clumsy fighter, people seem to forget that he has spent 80% of his career being clumsy 'A exciting fighter, but he was always being bashed about'. I watched all of his career, for the most part he was deemed as a clumsy yet game and exciting fighter 'Not some sort of technical genius'.

    He is still that fighter somewhere inside, I am not fooled by what the media say or his hardcore fans.

    Tyson Fury has been there to be hit since Wilder I 'He does not want to use his old riddler style anymore, that was largely a bi-product of Peter Fury's training'.

    Tyson Fury has faced Deontay Wilder twice before, but even still 'He is taking a step into the unknown in this third fight'.

    Can he make a successful title defense finally?

    Can he actually win a fight where he is not a underdog? In all of Fury's biggest fights, he always plays this underdog type character.

    There is none of that anymore, people in mass are expecting him to completely destroy Deontay Wilder. The mainstream media, boxing media and even alternative media have all portrayed Deontay Wilder as some sort of joke.

    All the pressure is on Tyson Fury, NOW he is the KING and people are expecting big time.

    Note: I think Tyson Fury will win, but all I am saying is that 'Wilder is still extremely dangerous for multiple reasons, it is not just his power'.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-24-2021, 08:56 PM.

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  • I have no ears
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    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post


    This is a regurgitated line that really makes no sense. There are only a hand full of fighters in history who could actually "fight on the back foot" and neither Wilder nor Fury are one of those fighters. Wilder doesn't need to fight moving back to defeat Fury, he needs to move his head, jab to the face and body when Fury comes in, and throw a minimum of 2 punches if he's not pumping the jab. He has to circle Fury and use angles, both for defense and attacking. Whether he can do that is another concern, but Wilder can defeat Fruy with out taking a single step back. Fighting moving back is actually one of the worst things a fighter could do, which is why it takes special talent to even have mediocre success with it.
    It makes all the sense in the world when in the last fight fury put all his weight on him throughout the contest and literally made him fight off the backfoot, the only time wilder didn't go backwards in the second fight was in the first round

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