Comments Thread For: Fortuna: Haney Is Just Waiting For Decision On July 9 So He Can Move Up To 140

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I was actually talking to Lomachenko’s manager Egis Klimas. We may make an offer in there as well, whether we can make that fight,” Hearn said.

They asked if we were serious about a fight and if we would be willing to have a fight. Egis(lomachenkos manager) replied, ‘Yes, of course, we want a fight.’ That’s how it ended, just that phonecall.

oops haney exposed. hearn admits he talked to lomas manager about a fight. lomas manager says we want the fight. hearn says we may make an offer...but he never did when he found out loma was serious about fighting haney! but please tell me about how haney wanted to fight loma some more

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I was actually talking to Lomachenko’s manager Egis Klimas. We may make an offer in there as well, whether we can make that fight,” Hearn said.

They asked if we were serious about a fight and if we would be willing to have a fight. Egis(lomachenkos manager) replied, ‘Yes, of course, we want a fight.’ That’s how it ended, just that phonecall.

oops haney exposed. hearn admits he talked to lomas manager about a fight. lomas manager says we want the fight. hearn says we may make an offer...but he never did when he found out loma was serious about fighting haney! but please tell me about how haney wanted to fight loma some more

He fought an eliminator that made him mandatory.

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If Lomachenko didn't petition to become franchise champion the fight would have been ordered, bruh...

wow straw man alert!!! being franchise champ did not preclude haney from making any offers to fight loma now did it? loma said he was fighting lopez anyway so no the fight would not have been ordered because of unification. haney actually used that as an excuse to try and trick uninformed people. look hes ducking me! hes ducking you to fight the #1 guy in the division? sure thing bud. we both know the context of the situation. loma said make me an offer and haney didnt. loma said send me a contract and haney didnt. loma talked to hearn and said we want hte fight and hearn said oh maybe ill make an offer but when he found out loma was serious he didnt. he knows what he is doing with haney. haneys just not ready. like i said hes a clout chaser using lomas name to hype himself up and hey its working so cant complain, but to pretend like he wants to fight loma? thats just not true. just ask him why he has never sent an offer to loma hes on twitter. he only pretended to want loma when loma was going to fight lopez the #1 guy in the division. everyone knew top ranks plan. loma even said im fighting lopez unless i get a big offer. that was haneys chance to step in and steal teh fight away...and he didnt! now that loma is available loma says send me a contract....and he isnt! loma is talking to hearn and saying we watn the fight and hearn is maybe making an offer...but he isnt! where did all that bravado go haney? after haneys last performance you think hearn is going to be making any offers? if he does props to him but not a great business move to have your guy get smashed by a rival unless you get some options on that rival

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wow straw man alert!!! being franchise champ did not preclude haney from making any offers to fight loma now did it? loma said he was fighting lopez anyway so no the fight would not have been ordered because of unification.

So mandatories dissappear after unifications? Got it.

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no i didnt know that . haney still fought gamboa lol instead of making an offer to loma or anyone good. i want loma i want loma! loma said make me an offer or im fighting lopez. utter silence. now hes ducking loma saying loma doenst deserv the fight lol. also where are his offers to lopez. i want lopez i wants lopez! no offers. dazn run out of money? creation of a hype job in progress. lets see how far they can take this no chin guy while fighting old shot figthers

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So mandatories dissappear after unifications? Got it.

you are trying to assemble a gish-gallop argument of nonsense instead of looking at the facts. instead of looking at the fact that loma told haney to send him a contract and told haneys team im serious about fighting haney and haney never replied, you are talking about how some mandatory position that was lost 2 years ago is now preventing the loma-haney fight? makes no sense. loma was only going to fight haney back then if haney made an offer. he didnt. loma wants haney to make an offer now and hes not. loma being franchise champ never precluded haney from making any offers anyway so that argument is weak as hell.

if loma was trying to setup a duck of haney in the future as you imply, why does loma want haney to send him a contract now? it just doesnt add up even under the slightest scrutiny.

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you are trying to assemble a gish-gallop argument of nonsense instead of looking at the facts. instead of looking at the fact that loma told haney to send him a contract and told haneys team im serious about fighting haney and haney never replied, you are talking about how some mandatory position that was lost 2 years ago is now preventing the loma-haney fight? makes no sense. loma was only going to fight haney back then if haney made an offer. he didnt. loma wants haney to make an offer now and hes not. loma being franchise champ never precluded haney from making any offers anyway so that argument is weak as hell.

if loma was trying to setup a duck of haney in the future as you imply, why does loma want haney to send him a contract now? it just doesnt add up even under the slightest scrutiny.

Facts: Loma and Top Rank petitioned for a title that doesn't have mandatories while Haney was his.

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Facts: Loma and Top Rank petitioned for a title that doesn't have mandatories while Haney was his.

so loma was going to duck haney before haney started ducking loma? thats your argument? now lets think about this for a second shall we? lets really indulge your counter factual universe for a second because you obviously are ignoring all the pertinent facts about haney never making any offers to loma so lets do it your way even though im sure you will twist this as well.

if loma had beaten lopez there would be many bigger fights for loma than a haney fight would there not? yet he would have to fight haney if haney wanted to enforce that fight(we know now he didnt want the fight but back then we didnt know that and neither did loma) so why would loma want to fight haney if there was a possibility he could fight tank? if he could fight lopez in a rematch? ryan garcia? etc... all these fights are bigger than a haney fight yet he would have to fight haney if ordered. thats not a good position to be in.being franchise champ simply gave him more maneuverability and flexibility. it didnt mean im doing this to duck haney, and if you look at how hes willing to fight haney now you can see he wasnt trying to duck haney yet you keep going back to this fantasy counter factual duck that never even happened instead of looking at reality and seeing oh wait haney has huge money behind him in dazn and they arent making any offers to loma thats weird. they wanted loma on dazn for the campbell fight but not for haney...they must have bigger plans for haney and thats ok but yeah loma isnt ducking haney. if haney wants the fight send an offer

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so loma was going to duck haney before haney started ducking loma? thats your argument? now lets think about this for a second shall we? lets really indulge your counter factual universe for a second because you obviously are ignoring all the pertinent facts about haney never making any offers to loma so lets do it your way even though im sure you will twist this as well.

if loma had beaten lopez there would be many bigger fights for loma than a haney fight would there not? yet he would have to fight haney if haney wanted to enforce that fight(we know now he didnt want the fight but back then we didnt know that and neither did loma) so why would loma want to fight haney if there was a possibility he could fight tank? if he could fight lopez in a rematch? ryan garcia? etc... all these fights are bigger than a haney fight yet he would have to fight haney if ordered. thats not a good position to be in.being franchise champ simply gave him more maneuverability and flexibility. it didnt mean im doing this to duck haney, and if you look at how hes willing to fight haney now you can see he wasnt trying to duck haney yet you keep going back to this fantasy counter factual duck that never even happened instead of looking at reality and seeing oh wait haney has huge money behind him in dazn and they arent making any offers to loma thats weird. they wanted loma on dazn for the campbell fight but not for haney...they must have bigger plans for haney and thats ok but yeah loma isnt ducking haney. if haney wants the fight send an offer

Too Rank went out of their way to get Loma the franchise title so the fight wouldn't happen. Your level of emotional investment in Lomachenko doesn't change that.

[Rip Chudd]

he already did...he said fortuna had to fight garcia first. then haney went and fought gamboa? why didnt gamboa have to beat garcia?

But that's not what happened. He did fight Gamboa though