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  • champion4ever
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    #61
    Originally posted by andocom

    Really that makes zero sense. You really think Arum had some elaborate strategy which involved actively trying to lose in arbitration, everyone is talking about Fury Joshua undisputed is how you build Fury Wilder 3, really? Costing his client $50M and himself millions and providing Hearn the opportunity to prove he can make the biggest fight in boxing, only to have it fail apart through Arum's lack of due diligence, this somehow make Arum look good?

    There was no need to bribe a retired judge, Wilder had a rematch clause, Arum could have avoided looking (being) incompetent by just saying Wilder has a rematch clause, end of. No one would claim Fury is avoiding Joshua with a signed rematch clause in place.

    If they wanted the Wilder fight (for a quarter the money) they would have taken it, Fury could have claimed Wilder's ridiculous allegations where an insult to travellers worldwide which must be punished, you know actually build the fight.

    Arum ****ed it up, big time, its really that simple.
    Didn't I just say or need i say more?

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    • KingGilgamesh
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      #62
      Originally posted by Monzon99
      Fury and wilder ever want to fight Joshua, they only pretend to, to steal clout and to inrease their value. Haymon and Arum know AJ is the best and they want to protect their assets. Expect another Fury fake draw vs Wilder again which he will be bonused handsomely for.

      Then they both will keep ducking AJ while blaming Eddie Hearn. Also expect Lennox Lewis to be rehired to slander AJ and Hearn for a few more shekels. Media manipulation works.
      LOL this is the kind of guy who listens to Eddie Hearn. An idiot who thinks the Joshu Ruiz fight was a fix and thinks the world is flat

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      • KingGilgamesh
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        #63
        Originally posted by Ray*

        Anyone that thinks Joshua and his team should have “Known” what would happen in this arbitration is a dosser.

        I miss how would you know when you are been told that it’s all fine and sorted. How many times did Arum says that? Even with Fury saying he would never fight Wilder again for what he said about gypsies etc

        I just feel like Fury himself had no clue, he like many of us thought and believe what people like Arum said about the contract. He is a fighter, he isn’t going to be bothering himself reading pages of what the legal documents says.

        Team Joshua doesn’t know what on the contract neither, and could only go with what Team Fury tells them. So you must be a moron to expect anything different.
        You mean planning for every eventuality???

        You're an absolute ****ing clown. Like most of these Hearniacs.

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        • Ray*
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          #64
          Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

          You mean planning for every eventuality???

          You're an absolute ****ing clown. Like most of these Hearniacs.
          No you inbred. Like know what would happen in an arbitration that they have zero documentation on. ******** hearniacs. Always on Hearn d°ck

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            #65
            Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

            LOL this is the kind of guy who listens to Eddie Hearn. An idiot who thinks the Joshu Ruiz fight was a fix and thinks the world is flat
            How can you not see AJ tanked to fatso? you didn't see the photo of them smiling in the ring together after? Obvious fix. Dazn invested heavily in AJ and they needed a BIG money fight with wilder ducking like a coward. so the AJ Ruiz rematch was the big money fight dazn wanted and needed. the rematch was huge, AJ earned around $40m.

            so many naive ignorant boxing fans can only see the surface. suckers born every second.

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            • Toffee
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              #66
              Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

              You mean planning for every eventuality???

              You're an absolute ****ing clown. Like most of these Hearniacs.
              So he should have planned for Wilder to win the case.

              Ok then, what does that look like?

              Do you mean he should have planned for arbitration to fall in Wilder's favour and yet somehow still make the AJ/Fury fight? That's not possible when Fury's team aren't interested in negotiating a step aside. Or should he have made Fury fight Wilder earlier? How much control over boxing do you think he has?

              Does it look like dealing with a mandatory in December and the WBO calling their mandatory in May? Because that's exactly what has happened.

              I'm still struggling with the blame attached to Hearn on these boards. If you're blaming him, then he must have caused some problem? What problem did he cause? What are you blaming him for?

              The fighter he represents is making the fights he would have faced anyway.

              The ones he doesn't represent are the ones impacted by the ruling... Wilder, Fury, Joyce. All lost due entirely to the actions of Fury, Arum and then the decision of Weinstein.

              What impact did Hearn cause?

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                #67
                All Eddie did was call the organisers of AJ-Ruiz 2 who he worked with before. Eddie didn't find new contacts.

                Eddie really brainwashed these mis-matchroom morons into believing he done all the work.


                A gift for these gullible morons. Enjoy.

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                • Ray*
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Toffee

                  So he should have planned for Wilder to win the case.

                  Ok then, what does that look like?

                  Do you mean he should have planned for arbitration to fall in Wilder's favour and yet somehow still make the AJ/Fury fight? That's not possible when Fury's team aren't interested in negotiating a step aside. Or should he have made Fury fight Wilder earlier? How much control over boxing do you think he has?

                  Does it look like dealing with a mandatory in December and the WBO calling their mandatory in May? Because that's exactly what has happened.

                  I'm still struggling with the blame attached to Hearn on these boards. If you're blaming him, then he must have caused some problem? What problem did he cause? What are you blaming him for?

                  The fighter he represents is making the fights he would have faced anyway.

                  The ones he doesn't represent are the ones impacted by the ruling... Wilder, Fury, Joyce. All lost due entirely to the actions of Fury, Arum and then the decision of Weinstein.

                  What impact did Hearn cause?
                  You can not really have a civil discussion with these sort of posters. They have their Hearn posters on the top of their ceiling whilst they lay in bed.

                  They have zero comprehensions when it comes to understanding how things works, if you are not on Hearn d°ck like they are then you arent making sense to them.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by The plunger man
                    didn’t fury actually announce to the world the Joshua fight is signed , sealed delivered on twitter Sunday and if arum , Warren and co were actually saying the arbitration will not make a difference that’s all you can go on...Hearn is not privy to the internal meetings going on and there has to be some sort of trust and honesty when negotiating which obviously on fury’s side there wasn’t it...there is one guy on this site who is quiet at the moment because he knows who is the culprit and he is the biggest cheerleader for fury and that’s denium who after talking to many times has a sense of morals and honesty...he knows
                    I don’t think this fight ever takes place now and if does it’s quite possible they will never have the career changing purse they would have made in saudi...as it might have burned there bridges with that money train avenue.
                    fury fancies his chances better with a fighter he can rag doll anytime he wants and then face some low tier heavyweight.
                    Fury has played everybody
                    The reason why the Fury vs Joshua fight was also bigger than ever, was because of Fury's performance vs Wilder II.

                    If Fury struggles with Wilder in the third fight, I don't think the fight will be as big.

                    I honestly think Joshua should just go about his business fighting other fighters. Until Fury is knocking on Eddie Hearn's door, agreeing to everything.

                    I am not sure why Joshua & Hearn act as if Fury is dictating things 'Who has more belts? Which company is right now bigger?'.

                    Let Fury come to them. Joshua can still fight many fighters even Wilder.

                    Note: I am not a big supporter of ether fighter, just even I can see how Fury's team have messed people about. I also don't think any of this situation was caused by Frank Warren 'As he did seem kind of supportive of Joshua vs Fury'.


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                    • Ray*
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                      The reason why the Fury vs Joshua fight was also bigger than ever, was because of Fury's performance vs Wilder II.

                      If Fury struggles with Wilder in the third fight, I don't think the fight will be as big.

                      I honestly think Joshua should just go about his business fighting other fighters. Until Fury is knocking on Eddie Hearn's door, agreeing to everything.

                      I am not sure why Joshua & Hearn act as if Fury is dictating things 'Who has more belts? Which company is right now bigger?'.

                      Let Fury come to them. Joshua can still fight many fighters even Wilder.

                      Note: I am not a big supporter of ether fighter, just even I can see how Fury's team have messed people about. I also don't think any of this situation was caused by Frank Warren 'As he did seem kind of supportive of Joshua vs Fury'.

                      Fury came to Team Joshua doe. He just didn't think that the arbitration would be a roadblock.

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