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  • Repens
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    #131
    I would prefer AJ to win. He's a better role model and better for the sport as he's way more entertaining in the ring - although Fury is way more entertaining outside the ring. We can use the Wlad fights as confirmation of what I'm saying. Fury's build up to the Wlad fight was VERY entertaining but the fight wasn't exciting. A masterclass from Fury maybe, but definitely boring - it certainly would not win new fans to boxing. Conversely the build-up to Wlad vs AJ was boring but the fight was VERY exciting and should/would at least be included in a conversation of best fights in the last 10 years.

    Although they are both in their prime, AJ doesn't have the same experience as Fury. Josh is almost caught between 2 styles now and the difference of the five professional fights is important as Joshua is still learning and improving. I thought the Pulev fight showed a merging of his styles and certainly showed glimpses of his previous arrogance and power that makes him an exciting fighter to watch. The extra five fights would see him improve to a level where he beats Fury IMO but at the moment it's the toss of a coin for winner.

    This brings me to another point, why are they not fighting more regular? I know covid for the past year has made this difficult but that's only been for a year! Canelo is showing that fighting every 6 months at elite level is possible. If we got more fights, we would be better placed to compare resumes as they couldn't "dodge" each other as readily. The various belts don't help either but that's a different thread!

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    • Robertthebruce
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      #132
      Originally posted by Repens
      I would prefer AJ to win. He's a better role model and better for the sport as he's way more entertaining in the ring - although Fury is way more entertaining outside the ring. We can use the Wlad fights as confirmation of what I'm saying. Fury's build up to the Wlad fight was VERY entertaining but the fight wasn't exciting. A masterclass from Fury maybe, but definitely boring - it certainly would not win new fans to boxing. Conversely the build-up to Wlad vs AJ was boring but the fight was VERY exciting and should/would at least be included in a conversation of best fights in the last 10 years.

      Although they are both in their prime, AJ doesn't have the same experience as Fury. Josh is almost caught between 2 styles now and the difference of the five professional fights is important as Joshua is still learning and improving. I thought the Pulev fight showed a merging of his styles and certainly showed glimpses of his previous arrogance and power that makes him an exciting fighter to watch. The extra five fights would see him improve to a level where he beats Fury IMO but at the moment it's the toss of a coin for winner.

      This brings me to another point, why are they not fighting more regular? I know covid for the past year has made this difficult but that's only been for a year! Canelo is showing that fighting every 6 months at elite level is possible. If we got more fights, we would be better placed to compare resumes as they couldn't "dodge" each other as readily. The various belts don't help either but that's a different thread!
      You are completely wrong to say AJ is the better role model.
      Fury is a good traditional family man, the day after his win over Wilder he was on talk shows with his wife Paris and kids showing what a good man with ethics he truly is.
      AJ on the other hand is a lying deceitful cheat in his personal life. He took his son and got rid of the kids mum by force and now plays around like the lecherous man that he is. Is this a good role model for you??
      You are falling for the image that his promotion are trying to push and all his words and actions are carefully choreographed. Fury just says is as it is and plays it a bit like the WWE but look at both private life's and it is clear who the real role model should be.
      AJ was also a drug dealer etc and the real AJ is not as pleasant as you may think.

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      • Repens
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        #133
        Originally posted by Robertthebruce

        You are completely wrong to say AJ is the better role model.
        Fury is a good traditional family man, the day after his win over Wilder he was on talk shows with his wife Paris and kids showing what a good man with ethics he truly is.
        AJ on the other hand is a lying deceitful cheat in his personal life. He took his son and got rid of the kids mum by force and now plays around like the lecherous man that he is. Is this a good role model for you??
        You are falling for the image that his promotion are trying to push and all his words and actions are carefully choreographed. Fury just says is as it is and plays it a bit like the WWE but look at both private life's and it is clear who the real role model should be.
        AJ was also a drug dealer etc and the real AJ is not as pleasant as you may think.
        have you met or do you know the real aj or are you just believing the unpromoters?

        Fury was caught taking "cheat" drugs and openly admitted to taking recreational drugs - not when he was a kid, but when a fully fledged boxing professional!
        The stuff about aj taking his kids from their mother is stuff I can't comment on as I don't know anything about it. FYI - my ex-wife spout's all sorts of "facts" about me but that doesn't make them true.
        aj would probably be in jail if not for boxing. fury would probably be in jail if not for boxing. boxing has saved many from jail and everyone of those saved are good role models for boxing. So, I will concede, that both are good role models but probably for different people, for different stages of life and for different reasons.

        aj is the more exciting fighter though

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #134
          Originally posted by Toffee
          Wilder had stopped boxing at all after the first Ortiz fight. Basically sat back and waited for his chance. I find it strange that people see that as 'aggression' while a guy using a jab is seen as 'running'.

          AJ went the distance twice since Wlad? One was a unification and the other it was just an obvious tactic given the opponent. Even Tyson went the distance in unifications. It's not indicative of a fighter who can't be aggressive - just fighting the fight that is required.

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          Easy to get caught up thinking 'AJ did a stick and move job on Ruiz, therefore that's how he fights now' and 'Fury went on the front foot v Wilder therefore that's how he fights now'.

          All they did is show a different approach. To get a win they couldn't previously get against that opponent. Both of them. It would be pretty foolish to throw out a career of work based on one fight.

          In terms of what Joshua does better. Over his career, he prepares better, he hits harder, he stops more opponents, he counterpunches better. Fury does plenty of things better too of course otherwise we wouldn't be so interested in this fight.

          The idea that Joshua is a runner and Fury a destroyer is nonsense all based on one fight each. You've got a whole career to look at it. It will come down the adjustments.
          Fury isn't beholden to his power. Of course he goes the distance with guys. AJ has less dimensions to his game than Fury. He's trying to add dimensions to his game, but mainly he just seems awkward & unsure of himself in his fights post-Wlad. Granted he's a high level guy obviously & he's beating virtually everyone hes gonna fight except Fury, but for being a top 3 guy for numerous years now he seems less competent in the ring than he should. And Wilder did too to be fair. Both Wilder & AJ scream confidence outside the ring & up to the first ring of the bell on fight night doe oddly enough.


          ​​​​​​Lol & where did I say Fury is a destroyer? You are just making sh^t up now. I did say if pre-Wlad AJ shows up Fury will be able to exploit him even easier, although admittedly that's where AJ has a better shot of hurting Fury, but a mistake or lack of focus could make it a more fun fight.

          What I'm saying is whatever game AJ wants to play Fury can beat him at. His only shot is his aggression & power & he seems unsure of who he is since the life & death fight with Wlad so has backed off that style a lil. AJ isn't outboxing Fury in 100 fights. And AJ has turned himself into more of a boxer post-Wlad. It's gotten him W's for the most part, but Fury ain't as limited as Parker or Fat Ruiz.

          And no doubt on the adjustment line. Again the thing is Fury gots a whole toolbox of tools to make adjustments & AJ gots a workbelt with a hammer & a worn down screwdriver.

          I really got no clue what folks are seeing that suggest this is a 50/50 fight or that AJ should be favored in some cases. Wilder vs AJ is probably 50/50ish, assuming Wilder ain't lost his marbles & can be the guy he was pre-Fury which is a big assumption to make so I'd probably lean more AJ's way with Wilder's chances being dependent on a come from behind KO. But AJ vs Fury...nah lol. AJ wins like 20% of the time.
          Last edited by Eff Pandas; 05-15-2021, 06:45 AM.

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          • miniq
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            #135
            Fury will make AJ look like an amatuer

            box his head off and stop him mid/late

            total domination.

            Fury cements himself at a Top 10 ATG heavyweight. & H2H one of the best ever.

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              #136
              Hearn will make Joshua believe he can beat Fury and sacrifice him to Fury.

              The plan would have already been complete if Ruiz had been able to beat Joshua in a rematch. Why you think Joshua got so much money for a rematch? It should have been a retirement package.

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              • Mario040481
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                #137
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                Fury wouldn't fight an Andy Ruiz. He cherry picks much further down the rankings. He doesn't defend titles so mandatories are out of the question too.

                Wilder would be easy work for Joshua. Fury was struggling to finish him even though Wilder was struggling with gravity for 3 rounds.

                Leftover? Fury did nothing the whole damn fight with Wlad. That's the plan he'll try with Joshua, stink the place out trying to run circles around the ring. Won't work though.
                Funniest thing I have read all morning, lol. Flawless victory! Thanks!

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                • Froch_uppercut
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Rapscallion

                  I wish you all the luck in the world, but it won't make a difference. Fury will make Joshua look so inept that AJ will lose even if his 2012 Olympics judges were scoring the fight.
                  What has Fury done to make you think that? He has that W over Wlad, and that's it. Wilder is awful and has literally been hyped like no other fighter in history. Meanwhile, AJ's resume is littered with wins against champions and former champions. This is a mismatch.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Akutalee
                    He will knock Fury out
                    100% this. Wilder was hype, and Fury is getting credit like he beat Lennox Lewis in his prime. Joshua is going to absolutely expose that boy, easy easy win. If (and it's a big if) if Fury doesn't withdraw from the fight with some sort of ****** excuse / mystery illness / failed drug test (it was wild boar!).
                    He's an idiot and anyone who thinks he is some sort of trash talking genius is a low IQ moron who can't tell the difference between a liar who contradicts himself one day to the next (one day it's only about money and the next day he's a spartan who dgaf about money). Can't stand liars and duckers, he is both, ask Dillian Whyte.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Froch_uppercut

                      What has Fury done to make you think that? He has that W over Wlad, and that's it. Wilder is awful and has literally been hyped like no other fighter in history. Meanwhile, AJ's resume is littered with wins against champions and former champions. This is a mismatch.
                      I think it will be a blow out to in the first fight , maybe the last ? Not sure Fury fights again when he gets trounced .

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