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  • greeneye99
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    #121
    Originally posted by deathofaclown

    Fury is a level above AJ

    you’ll see
    Lololololol
    Hmmmm just like you said BJS would demolish Canelo
    #Neverhappen

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    • Toffee
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      #122
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      Idk how he's gonna do that unless Fury hires Breland to poison his own water & wears a 40lb Gypsy outfit into the ring.

      I have a hard time seeing AJ outbox Fury. And thats the way AJ has been leaning towards lately or pretty much since the Wlad war. And idk that he can bring more aggression than Wilder did & Fury held him to a draw in their first fight when he was in less than ideal shape, probably physically & mentally, than he appears to be now. The 60/40ish Fury odds on this fight seem massively off to me.
      Wilder basically stopped boxing over the last few years. Everyone brings more aggression.

      It's close to a 50/50 for me. Personally I edge towards AJ purely on a style basis. Fury can't bring what he's shown to date as I think either style suits Joshua. To me that means Fury has to be more of a boxer/puncher than we've seen before... but that's adapting your style to be similar to your opponent who has fought that way his whole career.

      The very top level of boxing usually comes down to who makes the better adjustments. Both have proven that they can change styles to win.

      Wait and see.

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      • greeneye99
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        #123
        Originally posted by deathofaclown

        AJ will get beat. Hearn knows it too. It’s his last fight on his contract with Hearn, plus AJ won’t be moving to DAZN.

        That means there’s a good chance AJ and Hearn don’t renew any contract after this fight. That’s the reason it’s been changed to a one fight deal instead of two.

        Hearn is going to let AJ get smashed on his final fight in the contract for the most amount of money. Cant blame him.

        Hearn has played a blinder. Kept AJ away from the real top fighters until they’re likely ending their working relationship and now he can cash out for the biggest amount possible and it makes no difference to Hearn when he loses. Hearn moves on to his huge contract with DAZN, Sky will be left with AJ after all his casual fans saw him get smashed and no longer care. Clever bloke is Eddie Hearn. Why do you think he was so desperate to make it for July initially? So he can sever ties with Sky and AJ ASAP after he moves to DAZN

        he knows AJ is fragile and won’t last and he has Canelo now. He was even trying to get pally with Fury in the podcast, probably eyeing him up for when the Top Rank contract ends. AJ will be irrelevant after Fury beats him.

        It’s all so obvious but most people can’t see it.
        Only person that can't see is You
        EspeciaEspecially your corny boxing analysis & Predictions
        Go & check on Billy Joe Saunders

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        • Jkp
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          #124
          Originally posted by Toffee

          Which is why I still don't believe Fury is lineal.

          Retirement, inactivity and drugs bans breaks his initial lineal status. That's clear to me.

          So you need a consensus top 2 to fight.

          Fury earned that status from beating a few cans and drawing a fight against a champion with no resume? Usually you need to beat a ranked fighter to move up to a high position in the rankings. Fury only beat people ranked well below him.

          Wilder got there by beating Ortiz?

          There's enough doubt over their consensus top 2 status at that time. That means no lineal champion.

          I'd say Joshua v Fury is pretty much beyond debate. If the fight gets made.
          Aj got his title by beating the fattest athlete in history who never trained for the fight. The same fat peice of lard that beat him so bad he quit.

          aj shouldn't be in top 2

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            #125
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

            What top dog? Fury wasn't top dog when Wilder fought him, wasn't top 5 on any list. Joshua and Wlad were 1 & 2 AFTER Joshua beat him. If it wasn't for inactivity by Wlad, Joshua would have been lineal. Wilder is garbage, if he wasn't from the US he would have never been considered top 2.
            AJ shouldn't be in top 5 after being beaten by fattest champ in history, and quitting.

            He only has titles now because Eddie bought him a rematch, and his opponent forgot to train.

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            • Blond Beast
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              #126
              Originally posted by Toffee

              Wilder basically stopped boxing over the last few years. Everyone brings more aggression.

              It's close to a 50/50 for me. Personally I edge towards AJ purely on a style basis. Fury can't bring what he's shown to date as I think either style suits Joshua. To me that means Fury has to be more of a boxer/puncher than we've seen before... but that's adapting your style to be similar to your opponent who has fought that way his whole career.

              The very top level of boxing usually comes down to who makes the better adjustments. Both have proven that they can change styles to win.

              Wait and see.

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              I think Fury will come forward and AJ will be on the bike. He moved a lot against Ruiz in the rematch and same vs Pulev. I really like it when AJ stands his ground and throws. I loved that he jumped on Ruiz after he dropped him. He nailed him with some huge punches that Ruiz to his credit took, and fought back. AJ got caught and never seemed to recover physically or mentally in that fight. I think his in close combos and uppercut are a great weapon for him. Course Fury is very tall and slick. I just don’t want AJ to give up some of his strengths just cause it didn’t work out in one fight. I’ll give him credit every time he goes after a guy from here on out. I just think it’s going to be hard to win rounds if the bigger puncher is the one trying to kill time in a round at distance moving left then back to his right without throwing punches. If Fury takes it to him like he did Wilder I’d love to see AJ stand up to him. Jump on Fury if he thinks he hurt him, not just be happy to keep him off. I think AJ has a chance but only if he surprise people with his aggressiveness. A good jab to the body early would help. If he uses a style that makes it look like he’s the one with the weaker punches and the weaker chin I think he wil have a real tough night on the cards, even if he can avoid some punishment. Forward gears AJ.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #127
                Originally posted by Toffee

                Wilder basically stopped boxing over the last few years. Everyone brings more aggression.
                Couldn't disagree more with that. AJ has definitely gotten less aggressive since the Wlad war & all Wilder had that ever won him fights was his aggression & athleticism. AJ's jabbing more than previously. AJ's moving more than he did before Wlad & he's moving even more since Ruiz. AJ's going the deep & the distance more than previously. AJ was a fooking terror til Wlad brought him down to reality despite Wlad losing ultimately. That 6th round changed AJ long term. And the Ruiz KO probably changed him even more. Vs Fury his lack of risk taking is gonna be a problem.

                It's close to a 50/50 for me. Personally I edge towards AJ purely on a style basis. Fury can't bring what he's shown to date as I think either style suits Joshua. To me that means Fury has to be more of a boxer/puncher than we've seen before... but that's adapting your style to be similar to your opponent who has fought that way his whole career.

                The very top level of boxing usually comes down to who makes the better adjustments. Both have proven that they can change styles to win.

                Wait and see.

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                Obviously we will see, but I just don't think AJ does anything better than Fury except look like a HW champion more. Its gonna be a long night for AJ fighting against his new outbox guys strategy when he can't outbox Fury & he'll need to go back to his older school aggression that Fury will be able to exploit even more. AJ gonna have to kick him in the nuts when the ref ain't looking to win. I think its more like 80/20 Fury.

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                  #128
                  I expect a very slick and cautiously effective Fury throughout. At what level AJ shows up IMO won't be as much. He'll try to get inside, but Fury will catch him and be gone before AJ connects meaningfully. He'll have his moments, yes, but Fury will have many more moments... and will stop AJ mid rounds. Just my 37 cents worth.

                  Great fight for the fans though, certainly won't be boring.

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                  • Toffee
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas

                    Couldn't disagree more with that. AJ has definitely gotten less aggressive since the Wlad war & all Wilder had that ever won him fights was his aggression & athleticism. AJ's jabbing more than previously. AJ's moving more than he did before Wlad & he's moving even more since Ruiz. AJ's going the deep & the distance more than previously. AJ was a fooking terror til Wlad brought him down to reality despite Wlad losing ultimately. That 6th round changed AJ long term. And the Ruiz KO probably changed him even more. Vs Fury his lack of risk taking is gonna be a problem.
                    Wilder had stopped boxing at all after the first Ortiz fight. Basically sat back and waited for his chance. I find it strange that people see that as 'aggression' while a guy using a jab is seen as 'running'.

                    AJ went the distance twice since Wlad? One was a unification and the other it was just an obvious tactic given the opponent. Even Tyson went the distance in unifications. It's not indicative of a fighter who can't be aggressive - just fighting the fight that is required.

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                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Obviously we will see, but I just don't think AJ does anything better than Fury except look like a HW champion more. Its gonna be a long night for AJ fighting against his new outbox guys strategy when he can't outbox Fury & he'll need to go back to his older school aggression that Fury will be able to exploit even more. AJ gonna have to kick him in the nuts when the ref ain't looking to win. I think its more like 80/20 Fury.
                    Easy to get caught up thinking 'AJ did a stick and move job on Ruiz, therefore that's how he fights now' and 'Fury went on the front foot v Wilder therefore that's how he fights now'.

                    All they did is show a different approach. To get a win they couldn't previously get against that opponent. Both of them. It would be pretty foolish to throw out a career of work based on one fight.

                    In terms of what Joshua does better. Over his career, he prepares better, he hits harder, he stops more opponents, he counterpunches better. Fury does plenty of things better too of course otherwise we wouldn't be so interested in this fight.

                    The idea that Joshua is a runner and Fury a destroyer is nonsense all based on one fight each. You've got a whole career to look at it. It will come down the adjustments.

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                    • Toffee
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Jkp

                      Aj got his title by beating the fattest athlete in history who never trained for the fight. The same fat peice of lard that beat him so bad he quit.

                      aj shouldn't be in top 2
                      That's a title. Followed by other titles.

                      I'm talking about Fury's ranking ahead of the second Wilder fight. He'd moved from unranked to top 2 based on a draw and a few bumfights.

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