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  • Spray_resistant
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    Originally posted by paulf View Post
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    dude has had four(?) fights, zero amateur bouts. All the resources in the world can’t make up for lack of athletic talent; Paul is clearly a natural athlete and that has the ability to excel at boxing.

    “Let’s see him do this against a real boxer” is kind of a silly argument considering he is green as **** himself. Line him up against the type of guys blue-chip prospects fight in their fourth fight and you’d see the same thing we saw last night.

    Dude is the real deal, and him building his career in his own lane is fine.

    For a valid comparison, I would pick him to KO Omar Chavez, another rich kid who has been training with all the resources in the world for 20 years, if they were in a similar weight class and fought tomorrow. What does that tell you?
    If he fights and does ok even if he loses against another pro with about 4 or 5 fights preferably also unbeaten, ok then, he is a pro boxer but now he is just some kind of actor who seems to like boxing.

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  • paulf
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    dude has had four(?) fights, zero amateur bouts. All the resources in the world can’t make up for lack of athletic talent; Paul is clearly a natural athlete and that has the ability to excel at boxing.

    “Let’s see him do this against a real boxer” is kind of a silly argument considering he is green as **** himself. Line him up against the type of guys blue-chip prospects fight in their fourth fight and you’d see the same thing we saw last night.

    Dude is the real deal, and him building his career in his own lane is fine.

    For a valid comparison, I would pick him to KO Omar Chavez, another rich kid who has been training with all the resources in the world for 20 years, if they were in a similar weight class and fought tomorrow. What does that tell you?
    Last edited by paulf; 04-18-2021, 03:40 PM.

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  • elfag
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    Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View Post

    How can he be a "legitimate boxer", without boxing an actual boxer?

    Fighting a 5"6 retired NBA player, and a retired UFC guy who could never strike to begin with, doesn't make him an actual boxer. Could be become one? Sure. Absolutely. But you're literally throwing the cart before the horse here.

    It's okay to be excited by the prospect of him. It's not okay to pretend he's done something before he actually has.

    This, even when its typical for prospects to be carefully managed their first few years to rack up some wins and experience.... they still proved themselves in amateur tournaments.

    Jake Paul has had 4 fights his entire life and every single one of them was against someone who never boxed before... ever. Every single one of them were significantly smaller than him. When he fought smaller guys of his own age, they were youtubers with less training time than him. When he fought former pro athletes they were both 10+ years older in their mid 30s.

    Jake would get lit up if he entered an amateur tournament. He throws the same combinations over and over but it works when he fights inexperienced guys who will walk straight into them. He has trained for 3 years on how to throw some punches so he has a massive advantage over untrained smaller and older men he is fighting.

    Could you imagine what would happen if Jake fought a cruiserweight in their 20s with a few pro fights and amateur experience? They would see him throwing the same overhand right all the time side step and counter him and it would be lights out when a guy his size lands on him.
    Last edited by elfag; 04-18-2021, 03:41 PM.

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  • KillaCamNZ
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    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    Yes he is a Youtuber, but he is also a boxer.
    He is a legitimate boxer. Lets stop referring to him like he is just your average content creator that dabbles a little in the sport or only trains when he has a fight lined up.
    How can he be a "legitimate boxer", without boxing an actual boxer?

    Fighting a 5"6 retired NBA player, and a retired UFC guy who could never strike to begin with, doesn't make him an actual boxer. Could be become one? Sure. Absolutely. But you're literally throwing the cart before the horse here.

    It's okay to be excited by the prospect of him. It's not okay to pretend he's done something before he actually has.

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  • !-1
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    I can't stand some of the panto at matchroom let alone this shlt.

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  • TMLT87
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    He fought a Youtuber, a small NBA player and then specifically cherry picked the worst striker in UFC history so he could say he KO'd a UFC guy. He does have a bit of athleticism and natural ability but lets not get carried away.

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  • SN!PER
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    Respect for bringing a new crowd to the sport and becoming the most hated guy in boxing since Mayweather in only 3 fights.

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  • 4truth
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    Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

    Did Hitman actually fight?
    I thought so but I'm not finding the video so....maybe not

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  • dan_cov
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    He'd get starched by a top 20 fighter, that is a given.

    He deserves respect for stepping in the ring, he doesn't have to. He doesn't need money or the fame.

    Sure its a circus act but the kid at the same time is now a legitimate boxer not someone that just had one fight to tick it off their bucket list.

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  • dan_cov
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    Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
    No he doesn’t.

    if he wants to box, then box.

    Go get some fights with actual boxers. Why not fight Chisora?

    he is what a cruiser weight? Go fight that dude Cieslek. Ranked 10 by the ring magazine.

    you want to be a boxer, then be one. He has the draw to where more people watch him fight than Crawford. Go fight that 10th ranked Ring magazine cruiserweight. Beat him and then all the praise in the world for him.

    That would undoubtedly get him a shot at a ABC belt. That undoubtedly deserves respect. Him being an actual boxer fighting actual boxers.

    but respect for these circus fights? That’s the dumbest s.hit in the boxing world I have ever heard.

    C'mon man you can't expect someone that has been training a mere 3 years that only has 3 fights at the lowest level to fight a HW contender with 70lbs on him or a top 10 CW title contender. That is like saying he's got to jump in front of a lorry travelling at 60mph before getting props. It'd be suicide.

    Why does he have to fight one of the best boxers in the world to get respect for stepping in the ring?

    Why can't he just keep fighting the MMA goofs and low level boxers and build and work his way up?

    He's gone from fighting a fellow youtuber in his debut to knocking out an ex UFC fighter in 90 seconds in just his third pro fight. A bigger step up than most prospects if you ask me.
    You have boxers with way more experience amateur and pro fighting guys with 0-30 records and nobody is calling for them to fight top 10 opposition. They're probably not expected to for another 6 or more years.

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