If Bud doesn't land pac,time for Duckford fans to STFU!

[kushking]

Ironic headline for all the Duckford fans who've been gloating for ages that Pac was not only a done deal but also that it would somehow make Bud p4p king as well as that it will somehow mean hes better than Spence & that his yrs of snipe hunting will not count.


When Bud got undisputed at 140 it was historically the weakest its been in many yrs,& the champs at the time were top rank bums who were elevated because of Bobs clout to be positioned as Buds easy conquest which laid the groundwork for eternally ducking at ww. He didn't defend his titles,he vacated & avoided all the real smoke thats come up at 140 since then. Lipinets would have beat Indongo & maybe Postal let alone Burns. Ramirez would ko everyone on Buds resume imho,let alone Ortiz or Boots would ko them w ease.

Bottom line though is that if Bud don't land the PAC fight & he fights anyone but an actual threat at ww,he should be ridiculed far worse than other boxers have for lesser offenses. Hell Bud should've been fighting the champion jwws at ww instead of the stumble bums hes beat. Bud constantly cries about how he doesn't have anyone on his side of the street,yet he can fight anyone from jww at 147 & nobody would complain because the champs at jww atm are big af.

hell I'm sure WBO would let him fight Ortiz instead of Porter as mando & Its the most lucrative easiest fight he can make w most reward.

[ShaneMosleySr]

I don’t know what changes if Crawford doesn’t fight Pacquiao. He just doesn’t have an opponent on his resume that’s good enough for his detractors still.

[Boxing56]

He needs to fight a top name opponent this year. It doesn't have to be a Pacquiao but dude is 34 I think. I mentioned this before but Tommy Hearns and Ray Leonard at that age were already ATG.

[#1PaperChamp]

If it goes from Pac to Porter or Thurman its fine. If it becomes some random dude then its disappointing especially since Porter has been so public about wanting the fight

[Roadblock]

When was it said a done deal, I always heard it was in talks but up in the air.

And TC would only know what Arum told him why guys attack the fighter I have no clue, TC wouldnt have a clue what was going on until a contract was in front of him.

[TernceBudCharlo]

What do I have to STFU about? How do you know it wasn't Manny being unreasonable in the negotiations? I still want him to fight a big name opponent.

[Roadblock]

What do I have to STFU about? How do you know it wasn't Manny being unreasonable in the negotiations? I still want him to fight a big name opponent.

Demanding 40 mill is what stopped any chance of the fight happening, Arum already said 20 mill was too much in the current climate and then Manny doubles it a year later, come on its easy to price yourself out of fights, its the one back door they seem to save face with fans with, its just such and easy way out, you watch Manny fight somebody for way way less .

[Fists_of_Fury]

What do I have to STFU about? How do you know it wasn't Manny being unreasonable in the negotiations? I still want him to fight a big name opponent.

Pacquiao fights top competition, Crawford doesn't. If the fight doesn't happen it's on Top Rank and Team Crawford. Enough blaming everyone else for Crawford's cherry picking and never fighting decent opponents. Crawford's resume is proof that him and his team are to blame. Crawford refuses helping to self promote by doing interviews, radio, tv, etc... with people that don't over hype and overrate him. Crawford's promoter said he loses $ on him. Over paying Crawford for terrible fights that lack in viewership isn't a good business model for a promoter . But, but dey be duckin. It's errybody fault but Crawford doe. Blame da resume on PBC doe.

[DaNeutral.]

It's no good saying Bud needs to fight top name opposition when top name opposition doesn't want to fight him. Spence has run to his farm and will fight anybody but Crawford, Thurman has said its not the right time and Porter wants a minimum of 50% more money off someboy else's promoter as a challenger than he was getting from his own promoters as a champion, in other words he is planning on pricing himself out.

The fighters the haters demands Bud fights don't want to fight Bud.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Demanding 40 mill is what stopped any chance of the fight happening, Arum already said 20 mill was too much in the current climate and then Manny doubles it a year later, come on its easy to price yourself out of fights, its the one back door they seem to save face with fans with, its just such and easy way out, you watch Manny fight somebody for way way less .

Why try to negotiate with Pacquiao to begin with then? Is it another smoke and mirror game of piggybacking off another fighter's name to sell a sheeit fight while blaming the guy you're piggybacking off of when a fight against them never materializes? This is a tried and true Top Rank tactic. Dumbass fangimps fall for it every time sadly. They blame the other guy instead of the cherry picker that fights sheeit fights.

Crawford wanted 50/50 then 60/40 his way to fight Spence. That's pricing yourself out. The other guy is the CLEAR A SIDE that is more known, has the better resume, has 2 more prestigious belts, and draws more. Crawford is clearly delusional and narcissistic. His fangimps are the same.

Crawford has a clear track record of cherry picking. His resume consists of b class or lower trinket holders, faded former champs and bums. Crawford wants big $ to risk being exposed. He is fine cherry picking with the Top Rank protection program with ESPN exclusivity. Don't expect him to fight any top guys when you fangimps excuse him for never fighting anyone worth a damn and blame anyone but him and his team, the real people to blame for HIS career and resume.