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  • Stuntman Mike
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    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    Im not trying to persuade you about anything I know you can't be swayed because you cannot look at the evidence you cannot question yourself, Toradol was huge in Football there has been a lot written about it from many pro athletes , if you think Manny wanting specifically Toradol right before fighting Floyd is not highly suspect that's on you, Arum was quoted as saying Mannys shoulder injury has been a thing since the ODH fight, which poses a question of how long has he been using Toradol and before what fights .

    If you want to google IV fluids, google dosages, 750ml for 150 lb body and tell me what you find, Ive given 2000ml to a 65lb Greyhound so you will find 750ml is a very small dose for a man, that's the first point, the next is go and find out how much volume of IV fluids do you need to mask peds,,,,,, but you wont go search will you because the answers will blow your theory away and we cant have that can we.
    You need to get yourself a pair of boxing gloves,get down your local gym and challenge the best there after a toradol injection then get back to me with how well you did

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  • Roadblock
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    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post





    I read your stuff about toradol

    And what a quote from some has been nfl player is supposed to do what sway me into thinking manny is a bigger cheat than floyd

    You need to google the benefits of iv treatment for athletes and shut up about toradol

    There's a reason floyd never weigh in that night after his iv
    Im not trying to persuade you about anything I know you can't be swayed because you cannot look at the evidence you cannot question yourself, Toradol was huge in Football there has been a lot written about it from many pro athletes , if you think Manny wanting specifically Toradol right before fighting Floyd is not highly suspect that's on you, Arum was quoted as saying Mannys shoulder injury has been a thing since the ODH fight, which poses a question of how long has he been using Toradol and before what fights .

    If you want to google IV fluids, google dosages, 750ml for 150 lb body and tell me what you find, Ive given 2000ml to a 65lb Greyhound so you will find 750ml is a very small dose for a man, that's the first point, the next is go and find out how much volume of IV fluids do you need to mask peds,,,,,, but you wont go search will you because the answers will blow your theory away and we cant have that can we.

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  • Stuntman Mike
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    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    Well Im older than you and have a life time in boxing and Im not a Manny nah sayer but I also know Floyd is the better boxer, have you researched Toradol yet ? or are you having a senior moment when it comes to Toradol ?.
    I read your stuff about toradol

    And what a quote from some has been nfl player is supposed to do what sway me into thinking manny is a bigger cheat than floyd

    You need to google the benefits of iv treatment for athletes and shut up about toradol

    There's a reason floyd never weigh in that night after his iv

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  • Roadblock
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    Originally posted by blowblow View Post

    what's your take on floyd's undisclosed weight that night?
    I don't have a take, lots of fighters don't have a fight night weight for every fight Floyd has many fight night weights taken over the years just like every other star fighter not in all fights, Manny has many times not been weighed on fight night whats you're point other than a conspiracy theory.

    What was Mannys weight that night ?

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  • Roadblock
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    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
    All you manny nae sayers don't know **** about boxing

    I was at ringside when clay took the title from liston in 64 you're all just a bunch of kids
    Well Im older than you and have a life time in boxing and Im not a Manny nah sayer but I also know Floyd is the better boxer, have you researched Toradol yet ? or are you having a senior moment when it comes to Toradol ?.

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  • Jab jab boom
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    Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post

    You think that, yet Pacquiao was fighting at 106 by the age of 18, at 122 by when he was 25.

    Floyd started his career at 19 at 130 and never fought close to those weights.


    Maybe Manny added some meat on his body with some Filipinio "Shakes' later in his career but he's definitely smaller.

    Manny was still making 130 going on his 30 birthday, Floyd would be dead if someone asked him to make 130 by the same age.


    Stating that Manny is bigger than Floyd is irrational IMO



    That being said, I'm not saying Manny lost because he was smaller, Floyd boxed better and is clearly a better welterweight.

    But Manny's legacy at 147 is much more impressive than Floyd's because Pac's so above his natural weight, that's mind blowing.
    one that’s not a good indicator of someone’s size because many know Floyd always chose to fight close to his walk around weight and not drain himself. Also by that logic we can say that Oscar delahoya is a smaller man than Ricky hatton based on the weights they fought at when young. Since you’re going that route, pac was 16 fighting at 106. Not 19. By 19 he was fighting at 112 and getting knocked out because he couldn’t make the weight without hurting himself.

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  • Stuntman Mike
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    All you manny nae sayers don't know **** about boxing

    I was at ringside when clay took the title from liston in 64 you're all just a bunch of kids

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  • BillyBoxing
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    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    I think pac is shorter and has a much smaller reach but I do think his body structure is bigger than Floyd’s. He has bigger legs, calves, hands , wrists arms. I think it was Floyd’s style that most problematic for pac.
    You think that, yet Pacquiao was fighting at 106 by the age of 18, at 122 by when he was 25.

    Floyd started his career at 19 at 130 and never fought close to those weights.


    Maybe Manny added some meat on his body with some Filipinio "Shakes' later in his career but he's definitely smaller.

    Manny was still making 130 going on his 30 birthday, Floyd would be dead if someone asked him to make 130 by the same age.


    Stating that Manny is bigger than Floyd is irrational IMO



    That being said, I'm not saying Manny lost because he was smaller, Floyd boxed better and is clearly a better welterweight.

    But Manny's legacy at 147 is much more impressive than Floyd's because Pac's so above his natural weight, that's mind blowing.

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  • Roadblock
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    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

    Because he claimed he had a shoulder injury,its a painkiller isn't it

    Its nowhere near as beneficial as blood doping equivalent iv's after weigh ins
    Obviously, you have not researched anything.



    https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-pac...nto-5-2--91226

    Why did Manny want Toradol superman drug before the fight when he was 100% no issues with his shoulder ? looks like the rat tried to cheat again.

    Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, says his fighter did injure himself in early April but he was "100%" recovered and sparring hard by the end of the camp. He says Pacquiao was perfectly fine when he entered the ring and requested a pre-fight numbing shot from the Nevada Commission as a precautionary measure.

    https://inside.akronchildrens.org/20...toradol-audio/

    (NFL linebacker) Brian Urlacher on HBO said last night, it’s like a flu shot, you line up, you get a quick shot and you put the Band-Aid on. They were saying it’s like a wonder drug, for three hours “you feel like Superman,” is kind of what they were saying. And so this drug was great.



    https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/3...-masking-drug/

    “Religiously. Every day. There’s no way I could get through a season without that,” Quincey said of Toradol in the TSN piece. “If you took a Toradol, it would mask all the pain. It did not matter how banged up you were and it never messed with your head. So you could focus, play a game, but literally run through a wall and not feel it. How good I felt on that drug — I felt like Superman. I couldn’t get hurt.”

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  • revelated
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    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
    ————
    Instead of responding to what I wrote, you still go in about Marquez taking the “worst” beating of his career. Marquez dropped PAC with one punch in the third round and then blasted him out in the 7th.
    That’s the worst beating of PAC’s career. That is a fact.
    I don't know that I agree with the last line.

    Yes, Manny was comically made to look like this:

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    But he otherwise was not significantly hurt until the KO shot.

    Morales was giving Manny all he could handle in that first fight, in terms of sustained beating, and Horn had Manny completely regretting his career choice.

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    Marquez might have slept him, but I don't think Manny took a sustained beating like he did against Morales and Horn, to be fair.

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